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Wed Dec 28, 2011, 05:03 PM

73. I realize you are obfuscating!

"Really? Some people realize that Cole's claim that they didn't slow down is an unsubstantiated assertion based on nothing but Chandler's and Szamboti's crude measurements at the roof line, which shouldn't be expected to show even major decelerations. And some people realize that the "jolts" could have been spread out in time such there might not be any major decelerations of the roof, anyway. And some people realize that Szamboti's measurements actually DO show decelerations if they're properly interpreted -- just not ones of the magnitude that Szamboti imagines with the silly assumption that all the columns acted simultaneously to counteract the falling mass. "= same old same! opinion based on bias! Show the evidence!

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96 replies	Author	Time	Post
What doesn't add-up for me [View all]	Nuclear Unicorn	Dec 2011	OP
the first two questions are wrong	tiny elvis	Dec 2011	#1
"condemned as speculative by those who ask for it"	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#2
here is the thing	OnTheOtherHand	Dec 2011	#3
a muddle	tiny elvis	Dec 2011	#4
please pay attention	OnTheOtherHand	Dec 2011	#5
Here's the thing!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#6
"Mere assumptions based on opinion."	zappaman	Dec 2011	#7
One can only go by what truthers write.	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#8
since anti-truthers don't want to accept the possibility of CD then I expect this is another ...	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#9
A faked explosion in one video and a poison-the-well inadequate comparison in the other	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#10
what faked explosion bolo?	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#12
you're the one goes no where!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#15
I don't assume that's a faked explosion.	AtheistCrusader	Mar 1	#86
It is. When the video came out originally, all the sound in it was mono but the explosion	Bolo Boffin	Mar 1	#91
I didn't know about the alleged edits in the video.	AtheistCrusader	Mar 1	#92
You need to do better than that to support your complicated conspiracy	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#11
BS	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#14
It doesn't matter if it's fake or not	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#17
never ass/u/me anything!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#18
Any distance that is close enough to video the collapse	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#21
You moved goals agreed!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#22
I've been consistent here	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#25
"non-truthers"!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#31
You've got nothing	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#34
you have debunked nothing!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#41
An explosive six hours before 7 fell down was meant to bring it down?	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#42
Opinion is not evidence! None of us have any evidence for anything!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#45
Hearing a fake explosion in stereo and then later in mono is not opinion.	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#46
which of the two times you heard the...	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#49
I first heard it in stereo. I later heard it in mono.	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#52
and that proves they're both faked?	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#54
Or maybe	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#55
maybe, and...	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#57
I have my own speculations.	zappaman	Dec 2011	#48
"None of us have any evidence for anything!"	OnTheOtherHand	Dec 2011	#64
Let me dumb it down for you....	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#76
?!	OnTheOtherHand	Dec 2011	#77
The fact that the sun rises in the east may be an opinion in truther world	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#50
I think you're confused again. ...nt	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#53
Yet we don't see any thermite burning through the outer structure of the building.	AtheistCrusader	Mar 1	#87
What's an anti-truther? n/t	zappaman	Dec 2011	#13
also called a no-truther!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#16
I'm sure you know both of those videos have been discussed before	William Seger	Dec 2011	#20
I know they have been discussed before.	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#23
Nope, you need to watch it again: The sun is clearly not blocked.	William Seger	Dec 2011	#26
more bullshit from the anti-truther crowd!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#24
Here's "so fucking what":	William Seger	Dec 2011	#27
No!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#29
LOL	ocpagu	Feb 21	#84
Wrong again!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#30
Now THAT makes sense!	zappaman	Dec 2011	#32
thermit is quite quiet from a distance in case you didn't know that! nt	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#33
seems like the goalposts are moving	OnTheOtherHand	Dec 2011	#38
This message was self-deleted by its author	William Seger	Dec 2011	#39
That's exactly why the thermite nonsense was invented in the first place...	William Seger	Dec 2011	#40
don't need anything else yet.	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#43
"you wouldn't want the public to hear the explosives! Duh!" But according to 9/11 Truth	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#44
It doesn't matter what explosive they used	Nuclear Unicorn	Dec 2011	#51
some explosions were heard in the basement! nt	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#56
It happened when the aircraft struck	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#60
But the collapses plainly begin in the area of the aircraft strikes	Nuclear Unicorn	Dec 2011	#69
What's an anti-truther?	zappaman	Dec 2011	#28
tell me something william...	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#47
Is that a fact?	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#58
Conservation of momentum is a fact, yes...	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#59
From Bazant, a debris layer would quickly build up between the top and bottom sections.	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#61
bullshit, more bull shit!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#62
OK.	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#63
for every action....	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#67
You're missing his point	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#68
His point was to deflect or obfuscate!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#71
I grant good faith to you in this discussion. Please do the same for me.	Bolo Boffin	Dec 2011	#74
Bolo explained it just fine, and anyway, you're falling for a red herring	William Seger	Dec 2011	#65
I guess for you he did!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#66
"Most people do not realize..."	William Seger	Dec 2011	#70
I realize you are obfuscating!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#73
You can't compare colliding objects on different scales	cpwm17	Dec 2011	#72
And lots of people will try and explain what sort of locomotive the tornado sounded like.	AtheistCrusader	Mar 1	#85
"There was no raging infernos in the towers that lasted for hours!"	Nuclear Unicorn	Dec 2011	#36
Radio waves or cell phones?	AtheistCrusader	Mar 1	#89
And by the way!	wildbilln864	Dec 2011	#19
Drywall....	quickesst	Dec 2011	#35
So how did the drywall survive the ramming of a jumbo jet aircraft?	Nuclear Unicorn	Dec 2011	#37
I told you....	quickesst	Dec 2011	#75
My point is	Nuclear Unicorn	Jan 2012	#78
Come on....	quickesst	Jan 2012	#79
It's not about overcoming the strength of the steel below.	Bolo Boffin	Jan 2012	#80
Do you mean the bolts...	deconstruct911	Jan 2012	#81
"a 757 crashing directly into one floor"	Nuclear Unicorn	Jan 2012	#82
Really? You think you could go back in time, and drop the equivalent mass of a WWII battleship from	AtheistCrusader	Mar 1	#88
it seems you're on a mission! eom.	wildbilln864	Mar 1	#90
I hate dumb ideas, and that motivates me to debunk them.	AtheistCrusader	Mar 1	#93
well good luck with that. eom	wildbilln864	Mar 2	#94
Going pretty good so far.	AtheistCrusader	Mar 2	#95
right!	wildbilln864	Mar 3	#96
9/11 is no conspiracy! There is nothing to their story!	Logical	Jan 2012	#83

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