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Behind the Aegis

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49. The jury system is showing signs of major suckdom, I agree.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 10:29 PM
Apr 2012

However, just as safe groups (LGBT being one, where I also host) have 'special' status, if a group has a set of rules, unlike DU overall, then the jury is supposed to take those into consideration. It doesn't mean they will always do the correct thing, however, if there are special rules then those rules can be cited. Also, even if a jury doesn't do the right thing, you and UGRR can message the said individual and request they read the rules and follow them or risk being blocked from the forum.

If we have a set of rules, you can lock duplicate threads, lock threads with questionable sources (which might get a pass elsewhere on DU), lock threads with photos (I am waiting for the "death porn" to start up), and block posters who constantly break the I/P rules. I understand your hands are tightly bound, but I also know there are some things we can do to keep this group from sucking. The real irony here is I/P is turning into the dungeon it was once believed to be on DU2. The rules on DU2 kept threads from starting off and turning into flamefests. Yes, there were always a few here and there, which you could clean up (then) and no longer can. I feel having "safe haven" rules for I/P can return I/P to a more productive group, instead of a punchbowl for people to shit in. That's all I was saying.

No. Futhermore, we should decide if DU2 rules are still in effect or not. Behind the Aegis Apr 2012 #1
Agreed oberliner Apr 2012 #13
BTA Lithos Apr 2012 #43
The jury system is showing signs of major suckdom, I agree. Behind the Aegis Apr 2012 #49
Yr right about the jury system, but not about the MIRT... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #52
+1 and another +1 for good measure. Behind the Aegis Apr 2012 #53
your right about that and I will agree juries have failed azurnoir Apr 2012 #54
+1 ellisonz Apr 2012 #65
I think we should give it a try for awhile and see how it goes. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #2
Really bad idea oberliner Apr 2012 #14
why not? albeit the results would be ah predictable azurnoir Apr 2012 #3
I'm sure you could come up with some reasons oberliner Apr 2012 #12
If someone posts a really nasty poll question, it can be alerted on. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #17
Alarming, no. A really bad idea, I think so. oberliner Apr 2012 #27
Why were the polls so problematic? ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #4
I don't know. In fact, I'm not sure that they were ever allowed in the I/P forum Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #18
Help! I can't locate the voting button for this poll! Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #5
You can't be serious? oberliner Apr 2012 #11
Don't go all party pooper on me. We need to embrace new technology! Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #31
LOL! Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #30
Absolutely not oberliner Apr 2012 #6
Why, what's been going on lately? Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #19
Disintegration of the prior I/P rules in place on DU oberliner Apr 2012 #24
I agree, but I don't think that's a bad thing. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #25
I agree with you that its not a bad thing and allows for a more open wide ranging discussion. Dick Dastardly Apr 2012 #44
here is the problem under the structure of DU3 just how would those rules be enforced? azurnoir Apr 2012 #33
Honor System? oberliner Apr 2012 #36
That's kind of what happened here in the beginning of DU3 however DU3 is a whole new game azurnoir Apr 2012 #39
We're a group, not a forum. And that's where I think the problem lies... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #32
Yes. Scurrilous Apr 2012 #7
Shocker oberliner Apr 2012 #9
I too wondered what was the problem with having a poll? Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #8
Consistent flame bait oberliner Apr 2012 #10
Polls were allowed when you first joined? Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #15
Not that I recall oberliner Apr 2012 #21
Were polls even allowed in I/P when you joined? Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #20
No - I was referencing polls upstairs oberliner Apr 2012 #22
Polls were originally allowed Lithos Apr 2012 #40
well with regards to this group azurnoir Apr 2012 #23
You can see who votes for what in polls? oberliner Apr 2012 #26
It's all right here EarlG ran a thread in annoucments azurnoir Apr 2012 #28
Thanks for that info oberliner Apr 2012 #29
No. nt bemildred Apr 2012 #16
There are two things I dislike about polls: bemildred Apr 2012 #46
That was a quick turnaround oberliner Apr 2012 #47
Does it worry you? bemildred Apr 2012 #48
It does oberliner Apr 2012 #58
I don't see any value in allowing polls here. Mosby Apr 2012 #34
"..I think the group has been doing fine without the special du2 rules." Scurrilous Apr 2012 #35
Wondering when you'll be switching over from Mondoweiss to Electronic Intifada oberliner Apr 2012 #37
You're against polls due to the discourse that you believe will result. Yet, Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #38
No clue what you are talking about oberliner Apr 2012 #41
Here's a clue... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #42
Doesn't help oberliner Apr 2012 #45
Didn't think it would.... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #51
I appreciate that oberliner Apr 2012 #59
You're welcome and the pleasure was all mine. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #50
Actually I'd prefer allowing Electronic Intifada (or Arutz Sheva) to Mondoweiss (or Fresno Zionist) LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #61
Electronic Intifada is not a source directly from the conflict oberliner Apr 2012 #62
OK, I had thought that Abunimah was a Palestinian currently living in America; but on checking I see LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #63
i don't think it really matters... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #55
seriously?....physical threats? pelsar Apr 2012 #56
What is the Lebanese Forces forum? oberliner Apr 2012 #57
no shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #64
I don't really mind one way or the other LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #60
I think they'd be fine. ellisonz Apr 2012 #66
i see zero reason for any kind of poll.....to what end? pelsar Apr 2012 #67
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