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Response to kayecy (Reply #196)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:13 PM

197. i thought it was clear that neither your nor i can read the future....

Can I be clear on this statement of yours... ...Are you agreeing that an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities could very conceivably lead to a general war?

of course its conceivable...its just as conceivable that it wont and it will stop an iranian surprise attack on israel....
or do you once again claim you can read the future and you know that there will not be an iranian surprise attack?

seems you have a habit of slipping into that all of the time (pretending you can read the future....)

Have I been “using authorities”?........Can you identify which of my posts you are referring to?
147: time magazine: The defense official, pannetta, A senior IDF officer, to begin with. Not to mention your mentioned dayan and halutz......It should be clear by now that the two authorities you actually mentioned do not impress me and and have a poor record on strategic planning as well as reading the future, i can only assume your others are just as talented. Basically you have a belief first and then look to find 'authorities" to back you up...hardly am impressive system.

Dictatorship is not an ethical system of government.
yet you protect them, you agree that they are a legal form of government, so that in fact does give them the rights to handle their own internal affairs as they see fit (i.e. as per the syrian and iranian examples).

and you call that a moral position?

Would you consider that an Israeli pre-emptive attack on Iran to be moral no matter how many millions died as a result of the attack?
i would say if i new for certain, a 100% that 10 million would certainly die, that i would say its worth the gamble not to attack. If i knew for certain that 10 would die and that would be the end of the story than i would say "go". I don't have a magic number where there is a dividing line between the moral and immoral.


In other words, you justify Israel’s immoral occupation of the West Bank on the grounds of “Israeli security”...A reasonable excuse for the first few years of the occupation, .....Has Israel shown any intention of ever being prepared to end its occupation and return to the Green Line?

Gaza answers both of your questions: we now have a million citizens under the real threat of random rockets (see yesterdays attacks), so the security threat is real and is an almost daily affair and the ability to end the occupation has been shown to be possible.

are you justifying PA/hamas attempts at murder based on landownership?

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