Reply #169

totally different.

And unlike you with your obsession with personally demonizing me, none of what I said was ever, by any stretch of the imagination, a personal attack on you. Can you please just accept that already?

Of course I'm willing to accept that self-determination could have negative effects...It's not as though I've argued that it would lead to Utopia.

Worse case scenario...in theory, the Palestinians could try to attack Israel proper...but given the size of your country's war machine, it's doubtful they'd be that reckless...and there's no reason to assume the other Arab countries would back them in that attack. I'll concede that it's possible.

Palestine could end up with continued bad government. Fine. Obviously that's a possibility.

I've never claimed that Palestinians were saints or that their leaders were infallible, so you've had no reason to assume that I thought any such thing or that I believed myself incapable of error.

The one thing I do feel strongly about, though, is that the status quo isn't sustainable...and that preserving it isn't good for Israelis, let alone Palestinians.

Now will you PLEASE stop playing "I dare you"?

I really would like to know what YOU would think would be good alternatives.

(I'm guessing that you still think something like returning the West Bank to JORDANIAN control would be a good idea).

You act like there are any number of obvious superior alternatives to what I've been talking about...if you're going to claim that, you need to spell those out if your going to carry out this debate on intellectually honest terms.

And you need to give up on trying to silence me...I am not an enemy of Israel, and I haven't asked the Israeli government to do anything I wouldn't ask the United States to do...all I've done is point out that the status quo doesn't work. If it did, there wouldn't BE anyone that did anything called "terrorism", and there wouldn't be anyone doing as reckless as building the illegal settlements.