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In reply to the discussion: The Global March to Jerusalem, a brave and admirable attempt to awaken the world’s conscience [View all]azurnoir
(45,850 posts)42. Balfour promised a Jewish Homeland in Palestine period
parse it any way you please
and this quote from the comment I am replying too
"Besides, if you really think that the Palestinians "would do all that they've done if anybody else had occupied their land AND made them leave" then why haven't they been attacking Jordan this whole time?"
seems your memory is short because
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34. what about black september?
When the Palestinians formed their own military within Jordan and attempted to claim part of it for themselves... probably the closest thing to the IP conflict to ever occur in Jordan. When confronted by Palestinian militarism and terrorism within his own state Hussein reacted somewhat more severely than the Israelis ever have. His army rolled in and mushed them. Thousands were killed within 11 days. Tens of thousands by the end of the month. Then there was the expulsion of the entire Palestinian leadership and all of its fighters.
September 1970 is known as the Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود in Arab history and sometimes is referred to as the "era of regrettable events." It was a month when Hashemite King Hussein of Jordan moved to quash the autonomy of Palestinian organizations and restore the his monarchy's rule over the country.<2> The violence resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian.<1> Armed conflict lasted until July 1971 with the expulsion of the PLO and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan
Response to Reply #21
34. what about black september?
When the Palestinians formed their own military within Jordan and attempted to claim part of it for themselves... probably the closest thing to the IP conflict to ever occur in Jordan. When confronted by Palestinian militarism and terrorism within his own state Hussein reacted somewhat more severely than the Israelis ever have. His army rolled in and mushed them. Thousands were killed within 11 days. Tens of thousands by the end of the month. Then there was the expulsion of the entire Palestinian leadership and all of its fighters.
September 1970 is known as the Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود in Arab history and sometimes is referred to as the "era of regrettable events." It was a month when Hashemite King Hussein of Jordan moved to quash the autonomy of Palestinian organizations and restore the his monarchy's rule over the country.<2> The violence resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian.<1> Armed conflict lasted until July 1971 with the expulsion of the PLO and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=225782#226238
however in 1988 Jordan ceded the West Bank to the PLO and at that time the UNGA acknowledged a Palestinian State on November 15 1988
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The Global March to Jerusalem, a brave and admirable attempt to awaken the world’s conscience [View all]
Scurrilous
Mar 2012
OP
Things must be boring lately if a march has to be built up into an attack on Israel itself...
Violet_Crumble
Mar 2012
#14
Several rally participants expressed anger over the presence of Neturei Karta members, and a verbal
King_David
Mar 2012
#8
‘2-million-strong march to Jerusalem’ fizzles; anti-Zionist rabbis beaten at Jordan protest
shira
Mar 2012
#13
No, the ones who BEAT the rabbis don't represent the true spirit of the march
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#26
You assume that those results are the only possible outcome to self-determination
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#51
Civil rights are still a relevant issue. What happened in Gaza doesn't change that.
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#58
who is "we" shira? as in "How are we wrong?" and more over what is that "we" are after?
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#68
depends on your sources and what they say so no deal I do not agree to anything blindly
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#103
Lol knew said so in the first post after your 'challange' but I hardly backed down did I?
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#110
i don't say you don't care...but you care first and foremost for a govt based on race....
pelsar
Apr 2012
#79
you are actually not just calling the Palestinians modern day Nazi's your accusing them of
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#81
Stop blaming other people for what you post. YOU called Palestinians Nazis...
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#94
I don't care what you think of anyone else's post. I'm talking about YOUR post...
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#106
the standard in this forum is to make extreme exaggerations -just don't use the "N" word
pelsar
Apr 2012
#112
What part of what I've said aren't you understanding? Stop blaming others for that ugly post...
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#115
Yr still trying to blame others for that disgusting post. Stop trying to deflect...
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#119
you confusing blame with motivation, i don't blame others, i was motivated by past posts.
pelsar
Apr 2012
#121
Blame? Motivation? It's the same thing. Yr not responsible for what you posted. They made you do it.
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2012
#122
actually there is a difference between motivation and blame...at least in my world
pelsar
Apr 2012
#124
For the record, the term"carpet-bombed"(a term I did later modify since I accepted
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#148
Why are you bringing up the lies about organ theft in association with MY post?
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#147
just a mirror? please pointing out the irony of complaining about Palestian nationalism
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#101
There's nothing that continuing the Occupation can do to abet the cause of human rights
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#84
I've proven that right-wing nationalism does NOT come first to me. So don't ever say it does again
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#86
But it comes before Palestinian civil liberties under their leadership, right? n/t
shira
Apr 2012
#87
It ended up meaning very, very little that the words "all men are created equal"
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#91
Will you please just admit that I don't WANT a right-wing nationalist state in Palestine?
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#97
please stop saying "you're stuck" and just TELL me what other option you're thinking of
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#165
I never attacked "Israelis"-I disagreed with some policies of the Israeli government, and that's
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#169
If I was concerned about upsetting the powers-that-be in the ME, I wouldn't have supported
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#99
You don't say much about Mubarak/Hamas b/c civil rights there don't matter to you
shira
Apr 2012
#149
I did support the Iranian uprising. And I don't feel that either is hasbara.
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#159
There were NO positive options that involved Israel retaining control of Gaza
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#145
You're bringing up Begin when Barak's agreement to Clinton's Initiatives were in 2000
shira
Apr 2012
#154
No, it did not. If it had, the people of Gaza would have supported that leadership
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#198
ya it started about the time the British colonial ruler decided to give the Arabs land
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#31
quote "There was no Palestinian resistance when the territories were occupied by Jordan and Egypt"
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#44
Nazi inspired? " The Syrian Social Nationalist Party" began in 1932 before the Nazi party took over
azurnoir
Mar 2012
#18