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An Iranian backed human wave attack on the border. Fozzledick Mar 2012 #1
Don't you love it when "progressives" are promoting the Iran/Syria agenda? shira Mar 2012 #2
Really? Owlet Mar 2012 #3
Is there substantial evidence that they don't have the same agenda? aranthus Mar 2012 #5
Isn't that the point of it? n/t aranthus Mar 2012 #6
Things must be boring lately if a march has to be built up into an attack on Israel itself... Violet_Crumble Mar 2012 #14
zzzzzzzz jimmie Mar 2012 #4
Low turnout at anti-Israel march in Germany King_David Mar 2012 #7
Several rally participants expressed anger over the presence of Neturei Karta members, and a verbal King_David Mar 2012 #8
Wow jimmie Mar 2012 #10
LOL King_David Mar 2012 #12
Neturei Karta Rabbis beaten, insulted, sent away... King_David Mar 2012 #11
‘2-million-strong march to Jerusalem’ fizzles; anti-Zionist rabbis beaten at Jordan protest shira Mar 2012 #13
"they were rescued BY OTHER PARTICIPANTS"...THAT is the important feature Ken Burch Apr 2012 #23
I must agree.. jimmie Apr 2012 #24
No, the ones who BEAT the rabbis don't represent the true spirit of the march Ken Burch Apr 2012 #26
The true spirit is represented in the 2 videos below (#21-22) shira Apr 2012 #27
You can't fairly claim to be a two-stater Ken Burch Apr 2012 #28
Red herring. The "progressives" for Palestine are little more... shira Apr 2012 #29
so who appointed Ken Burch to be king? pelsar Apr 2012 #33
It's not about me, it's about what any Palestinian leadership can agree to Ken Burch Apr 2012 #34
Here's the issue. Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #36
actually its none of my business..... pelsar Apr 2012 #39
I don't think Hamas did well in Gaza. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #40
and thats the point......you don't get it pelsar Apr 2012 #41
The Occupation can't be good for civil rights Ken Burch Apr 2012 #43
we've seen your theory in action.... pelsar Apr 2012 #45
You have nothing better to offer than letting people have self-determination Ken Burch Apr 2012 #46
i asked about your theory..... pelsar Apr 2012 #47
I don't have a particular "theory" Ken Burch Apr 2012 #49
of course you have a theory.....(ok you believe it factual).... pelsar Apr 2012 #50
You assume that those results are the only possible outcome to self-determination Ken Burch Apr 2012 #51
i'm waiting....still waiting for you to answer....still waiting and waiting pelsar Apr 2012 #53
I have answered. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #54
I never said it was the only possible outcome.... pelsar Apr 2012 #55
I don't claim to have a "theory" Ken Burch Apr 2012 #56
what???????????????? pelsar Apr 2012 #57
Civil rights are still a relevant issue. What happened in Gaza doesn't change that. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #58
its not about the occupation, its about your political theory pelsar Apr 2012 #61
your tactics here are unfair. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #62
Ken, your political theory is a failure. shira Apr 2012 #63
Gaza wasn't a fair test Ken Burch Apr 2012 #66
Ken, Gaza was more than a fair test... shira Apr 2012 #71
I don't have a "theology" just because I disagree with you and Netanyahu. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #74
Oh yes, of course. Your opponents here are rightwing pro-Netanyahu clones... shira Apr 2012 #75
who is "we" shira? as in "How are we wrong?" and more over what is that "we" are after? azurnoir Apr 2012 #68
Your opponents who see through the ruse. We're after real answers... shira Apr 2012 #70
what ruse shira? I do actually support a 2 state solution azurnoir Apr 2012 #78
The ruse about two states, peace, & human rights... shira Apr 2012 #82
First let's start with Olmert and Bawadi azurnoir Apr 2012 #100
Fine. But I want you to promise to go all the way with Olmert/Badawi... shira Apr 2012 #102
depends on your sources and what they say so no deal I do not agree to anything blindly azurnoir Apr 2012 #103
Aww, no deal. I thought so. My sources are ironclad... shira Apr 2012 #104
well okay then I did not know that we were bsing here but if you say so n/t azurnoir Apr 2012 #105
Fine, don't debate then. Anyway, here are the facts on Olmert and Badawi... shira Apr 2012 #107
shira that's old stuff you posted previously and none of it countermands azurnoir Apr 2012 #108
Of course, as expected. This is why you backed down... shira Apr 2012 #109
Lol knew said so in the first post after your 'challange' but I hardly backed down did I? azurnoir Apr 2012 #110
this has nothing to do with the occupation ...yet pelsar Apr 2012 #64
I think that people are much more likely to create a democratic state Ken Burch Apr 2012 #65
i don't say you don't care...but you care first and foremost for a govt based on race.... pelsar Apr 2012 #79
So those democracies were created IN SPITE of occupations. Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #60
The STATUS QUO is a risk. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #67
Ken, how does ending the status quo benefit both sides? shira Apr 2012 #72
What's to gain from keeping things as they are? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #73
Because the alternative is worse. Like the Arab Spring... shira Apr 2012 #76
That isn't my position Ken Burch Apr 2012 #77
and they owe us apologies... pelsar Apr 2012 #80
you are actually not just calling the Palestinians modern day Nazi's your accusing them of azurnoir Apr 2012 #81
i'm just drawing the parallels..that ken brought out... pelsar Apr 2012 #89
Stop blaming other people for what you post. YOU called Palestinians Nazis... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #94
of course its disgusting....so is kens post pelsar Apr 2012 #95
I don't care what you think of anyone else's post. I'm talking about YOUR post... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #106
the standard in this forum is to make extreme exaggerations -just don't use the "N" word pelsar Apr 2012 #112
What part of what I've said aren't you understanding? Stop blaming others for that ugly post... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #115
i understand perfectly what your saying..... pelsar Apr 2012 #116
Yes, I'm saying I'm absolutely revolted by that post... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #117
the logic?....no there is no logic to it pelsar Apr 2012 #118
Yr still trying to blame others for that disgusting post. Stop trying to deflect... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #119
you confusing blame with motivation, i don't blame others, i was motivated by past posts. pelsar Apr 2012 #121
Blame? Motivation? It's the same thing. Yr not responsible for what you posted. They made you do it. Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #122
You didn't answer Pelsar's questions, Violet.... shira Apr 2012 #123
actually there is a difference between motivation and blame...at least in my world pelsar Apr 2012 #124
There's no difference at all... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #127
nothing to steer away from....your disgust is my world, welcome to it pelsar Apr 2012 #129
Thanks for the explanation, pelsar... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #130
fair enough....i'll keep you in mind... pelsar Apr 2012 #132
For the record, the term"carpet-bombed"(a term I did later modify since I accepted Ken Burch Apr 2012 #148
Why are you bringing up the lies about organ theft in association with MY post? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #147
thats a matter of opinion isn't it.... pelsar Apr 2012 #176
I've made comments about the Israeli government Ken Burch Apr 2012 #180
my reaction is "wow"....is your belief that extreme pelsar Apr 2012 #181
Are you STILL under the belief Ken Burch Apr 2012 #182
i'm under the belief... pelsar Apr 2012 #187
I've had my values questioned all my life. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #189
its your preferences ..that i'm questioning... pelsar Apr 2012 #202
I DON'T prefer Hamas to anything Ken Burch Apr 2012 #203
did you forget about arafat? pelsar Apr 2012 #205
What I meant was, why didn't the IDF leave BEFORE Arafat got back? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #206
its the reality again....really gets in the way. pelsar Apr 2012 #207
Look, will you tell me WHO these sainted local leaders were? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #208
i guess you didn't know anything about it?..... pelsar Apr 2012 #209
It wasn't about SUPPORTING Arafat Ken Burch Apr 2012 #210
Arafat destroyed everything with his corruption...or so say the Palestinians pelsar Apr 2012 #212
I'll agree that Arafat did a lot of damage Ken Burch Apr 2012 #214
OK, just went to the link you provided. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #211
i guess the first paragraph is too long.... pelsar Apr 2012 #213
I like all three of those people Ken Burch Apr 2012 #215
you don't like leaving your "comfort zone"......uncomfortable? pelsar Apr 2012 #216
They have the right to be anti-Arafat-I don't like Arafat myself Ken Burch Apr 2012 #217
can't end the war with the wrong policies..... pelsar Apr 2012 #218
I agree that you can't end the war with the wrong policies Ken Burch Apr 2012 #219
your avoiding the essence.... pelsar Apr 2012 #220
Yeah, Arafat did make the wrong choices, I agree with that. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #221
what your missing is that he was the problem..... pelsar Apr 2012 #222
Give me a break... Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #170
No, you give me a break... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #171
Of course I'm sure. Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #174
Let me get this straight... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #175
Violet... Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #184
just a mirror? please pointing out the irony of complaining about Palestian nationalism azurnoir Apr 2012 #101
Sure seems like your position shira Apr 2012 #83
There's nothing that continuing the Occupation can do to abet the cause of human rights Ken Burch Apr 2012 #84
Stop with the straw man arguments shira Apr 2012 #85
I've proven that right-wing nationalism does NOT come first to me. So don't ever say it does again Ken Burch Apr 2012 #86
But it comes before Palestinian civil liberties under their leadership, right? n/t shira Apr 2012 #87
You're not really interested in having a discussion Ken Burch Apr 2012 #88
Tell me in your parallel about the US..... pelsar Apr 2012 #90
It ended up meaning very, very little that the words "all men are created equal" Ken Burch Apr 2012 #91
Ken, you demand western style liberal actions from Israel but not from any... shira Apr 2012 #93
I want democracy everywhere. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #98
you miss the point.... pelsar Apr 2012 #96
Will you please just admit that I don't WANT a right-wing nationalist state in Palestine? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #97
of course you don't want it....i never said you did (a right wing govt) pelsar Apr 2012 #113
What other alternative was there in Gaza? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #120
start with your being wrong.. pelsar Apr 2012 #128
Preserving the status quo in Gaza was NOT an alternative Ken Burch Apr 2012 #131
your stuck Ken.... pelsar Apr 2012 #133
Palestine could be independent WITHOUT Hamas Occupation. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #134
your still stuck.... pelsar Apr 2012 #135
no, I don't know. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #136
why? pelsar Apr 2012 #141
Do you HAVE to keep saying "Western civil rights"? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #142
because the definition of civil rights and human rights is cultural.... pelsar Apr 2012 #144
I have never defended any of those things and you know it. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #146
you asked me why i write western rights and not "human rights".... pelsar Apr 2012 #161
please stop saying "you're stuck" and just TELL me what other option you're thinking of Ken Burch Apr 2012 #165
It won't make a difference.... pelsar Apr 2012 #166
I never attacked "Israelis"-I disagreed with some policies of the Israeli government, and that's Ken Burch Apr 2012 #169
I'm not trying to silence you.....i happen to be a proponent of free speech... pelsar Apr 2012 #177
Ken, I know that I never see you ever bringing up Palestinian civil rights... shira Apr 2012 #92
If I was concerned about upsetting the powers-that-be in the ME, I wouldn't have supported Ken Burch Apr 2012 #99
Ken, the point is that you were warned in advance WRT "post-Mubarak"... shira Apr 2012 #125
None of that is true Ken Burch Apr 2012 #126
You prove my point. You can't criticize Hamas or the PLO.... shira Apr 2012 #137
I said I didn't like Hamas. That IS criticism. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #138
I didn't say much about Mubarak prior to this year Ken Burch Apr 2012 #139
thats really a very poor excuse..... pelsar Apr 2012 #140
You don't say much about Mubarak/Hamas b/c civil rights there don't matter to you shira Apr 2012 #149
Stop accusing me of not supporting civil rights Ken Burch Apr 2012 #151
You want it but you'll do nothing to help/assist liberals and progressives.... shira Apr 2012 #153
I do want to assist them Ken Burch Apr 2012 #156
Then you would have stood up for them during Mubarak rule... shira Apr 2012 #157
I did support the Iranian uprising. And I don't feel that either is hasbara. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #159
So it's not hasbara to focus on Palestinian human rights in Lebanon... shira Apr 2012 #160
that was obvious..... pelsar Apr 2012 #143
There were NO positive options that involved Israel retaining control of Gaza Ken Burch Apr 2012 #145
Ken, I want you to acknowledge Israel's occupation is nothing like China/Tibet shira Apr 2012 #150
I never said it's currently like China's occupation of Tibet Ken Burch Apr 2012 #152
You're bringing up Begin when Barak's agreement to Clinton's Initiatives were in 2000 shira Apr 2012 #154
I'd be for Israel defending itself Ken Burch Apr 2012 #155
But we all know how that would end. Another Goldstone... shira Apr 2012 #158
i'm waiting for you.... pelsar Apr 2012 #162
You've lost me on the "anything other than the two options" thing Ken Burch Apr 2012 #163
I suppose there could, in theory be a unitary state Ken Burch Apr 2012 #164
What's most important to you? pelsar Apr 2012 #167
what's more important to me between what and what? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #168
Its not a trick question....its a touch of reality pelsar Apr 2012 #178
Will you please stop acting like I have a hidden agenda? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #179
you don't have a hidden agenda...i'm just clarifying your stance... pelsar Apr 2012 #183
You are NOT clarifying my stance...you are distorting it beyond reason Ken Burch Apr 2012 #185
can i quote you? pelsar Apr 2012 #188
They are corrupt, dictatorial thugs Ken Burch Apr 2012 #193
I didn't ask what they are .....i asked if they are liberators..... pelsar Apr 2012 #195
I don't regard them as either and am not sure why I should have to choose Ken Burch Apr 2012 #197
its called reality.....and its not always a very nice place pelsar Apr 2012 #199
I am open minded Ken Burch Apr 2012 #200
It was never the case that the only choices Ken Burch Apr 2012 #186
you "proof" never proves anything.... pelsar Apr 2012 #190
really someone who used to post here ? who? azurnoir Apr 2012 #191
thats her.... pelsar Apr 2012 #194
You can't seriously give the Occupation CREDIT for Intifada I Ken Burch Apr 2012 #192
no..i actually don't want to go back to gaza.... pelsar Apr 2012 #196
No, it did not. If it had, the people of Gaza would have supported that leadership Ken Burch Apr 2012 #198
tsk tsp tsk...your old habits are reappearing...making claims out of nowhere pelsar Apr 2012 #201
actually. Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #30
ya it started about the time the British colonial ruler decided to give the Arabs land azurnoir Apr 2012 #31
I'm afraid you're mistaken. Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #35
Oh so Balfour did not exist? azurnoir Apr 2012 #37
of course it did. Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #38
Balfour promised a Jewish Homeland in Palestine period azurnoir Apr 2012 #42
right. Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #59
thanks for the answer that I anticipated azurnoir Apr 2012 #69
you anticipated that? Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #111
ya I did because you've said it all before azurnoir Apr 2012 #114
You're changing the subject. Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #172
I answered your comments but I guess that is changing the subject? azurnoir Apr 2012 #204
"The Palestinian resistance is not based on hatred of Jews" holdencaufield Apr 2012 #32
quote "There was no Palestinian resistance when the territories were occupied by Jordan and Egypt" azurnoir Apr 2012 #44
Black September has nothing to do with Palestinians resisting occupation. shira Apr 2012 #48
as I was expecting this answer let me ask azurnoir Apr 2012 #52
seriously? Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #173
A little dubious of the NK folks being "beaten" at the protest oberliner Apr 2012 #25
Leading Global March to Jerusalem organizers embrace Gilad Atzmon King_David Mar 2012 #9
Nazi inspired Syrian Social Nationalist Party among GM2J crowd shira Mar 2012 #15
Nazi inspired ?? jimmie Mar 2012 #16
Rubbing shoulders with "Leftists" for the cause. n/t shira Mar 2012 #17
Nazi inspired? " The Syrian Social Nationalist Party" began in 1932 before the Nazi party took over azurnoir Mar 2012 #18
The Nazi party existed prior to the SSNP shira Mar 2012 #19
perhaps you did not read what you posted it was tenuous at best and charges that there was any link azurnoir Mar 2012 #20
Disgusting display by PSC led GM2J (London Protest) shira Apr 2012 #21
Scenes from a London hatefest shira Apr 2012 #22
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