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oberliner

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7. Atzmon was "an important anti-Palestinian propaganda tool" ?

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 07:39 PM

Mar 2012

I would say approximately 99.99 percent of people have no idea who he is.

Not sure anyone here has said that Palestinians are "evil" - can you provide links?

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Palestinian activists disavow former Israeli Jew for anti-Semitism (Gilad Atzmon) [View all] azurnoir Mar 2012 OP

The letter is a little hard to understand Mosby Mar 2012 #1

Many Palestinians and their 'supporters' consider the Israeli 'settlement' to be colonization azurnoir Mar 2012 #2

Atzmon was "an important anti-Palestinian propaganda tool" ? oberliner Mar 2012 #7

True most people have not heard of him but he has been brought up a number of times on this forum azurnoir Mar 2012 #8

Doesn't matter. This is all lipstick on a pig. shira Mar 2012 #3

thanks for the reply azurnoir Mar 2012 #4

You couldn't have asked for more? What does that mean? shira Mar 2012 #5

Nope I wouldn't change a word of your reply n/t azurnoir Mar 2012 #6

Which movement are you speaking of as "rotten", precisely? Ken Burch Mar 2012 #11

democratic, progressive ???? Hamas? Hizballa? Muslim brotherhood? pelsar Mar 2012 #12

I don't have to defend the oppression of an entire people to prove that I'm "tolerant". Ken Burch Mar 2012 #13

it could be asked if "crushing"Hamas is even possible azurnoir Mar 2012 #14

no hamas isn't going away... pelsar Mar 2012 #18

"all they have to do is not shoot at us"? Ken Burch Mar 2012 #39

"They weren't shooting at you in the Nineties" ? oberliner Mar 2012 #47

Fatah wasn't shooting at Israelis in the Nineties. I wasn't talking about Hamas Ken Burch Mar 2012 #51

History says differently. Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #57

You're acting as though Fatah and Hamas were conspiring together. Ken Burch Mar 2012 #65

Who cares. Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #75

I have a bullet somewhere in my closet eyl Mar 2012 #64

A lot of Palestinians have similar bullets Ken Burch Mar 2012 #67

Ken, you claimed Fatah wasn't shooting @ Israelis in the 1990's... shira Mar 2012 #68

No, it wasn't Ken Burch Mar 2012 #69

"Fatah did the best it could. Arafat changed & wasn't rewarded for it... shira Mar 2012 #70

The Israeli side didn't give up on settlements...it kept building them... Ken Burch Mar 2012 #71

So pretty much, all that crap you wrote about Fatah doing the best it could... shira Mar 2012 #72

No, it wasn't bullshit. Ken Burch Mar 2012 #73

If they moderated, then why'd they choose Intifada 2 when a state was offered? shira Mar 2012 #74

Not really eyl Mar 2012 #80

So you're advocating segregation and discrimination... Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #76

What does that have to do with the question? eyl Mar 2012 #79

Ken, how is it that this progressive movement hasn't said a word about Hamas or the PLO's... shira Mar 2012 #15

That's a big problem then. Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #16

That "Semi-autonomous democracy" was never treated as an equal entity by the Israeli governments Ken Burch Mar 2012 #20

so anything less than... Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #56

intolerance is intolerance.....is intolerance pelsar Mar 2012 #17

no...skepticism about what some folks claim is necessary in the name of "security" Ken Burch Mar 2012 #21

tsk tsk tsk......this is your quote...word for word: no squirming allowed pelsar Mar 2012 #22

I don't include the soldiers in that movement... Ken Burch Mar 2012 #24

nice rant....but its not the relevant pelsar Mar 2012 #27

I did say that it wasn't everybody who favors the Occupation Ken Burch Mar 2012 #31

this is not difficult.....you claim everyone who has a certain viewpoint is hateful.... pelsar Mar 2012 #33

Actually, it's not true that "when Hamas says 'stop', they ALL stop". Ken Burch Mar 2012 #36

The selective blindness is awe-inspiring... Violet_Crumble Mar 2012 #23

its irrelevant to me.....this sentence is relevent pelsar Mar 2012 #26

That's because yr engaging in selective blindness... Violet_Crumble Mar 2012 #28

its not blindness...i'm very clear. pelsar Mar 2012 #29

It is when yr totally ignoring the nasty generalisations in the post he replied to... Violet_Crumble Mar 2012 #30

thats why i'm asking Ken pelsar Mar 2012 #34

I've clarified enough Ken Burch Mar 2012 #37

If you not a bigot, then don't write like one...... pelsar Mar 2012 #42

A majority of Israelis support the Occupation...the settlements, not so much Ken Burch Mar 2012 #44

three key things Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #55

you asked: if it bothers me..." pelsar Mar 2012 #61

Singling out Ken doesn't hide the double standards at play, pelsar... Violet_Crumble Mar 2012 #53

and what is wrong with singling out ken? pelsar Mar 2012 #59

"lipstick on a pig"? Ken Burch Mar 2012 #40

It is simply a lie to say that everybody who supports Palestinian self-determination Ken Burch Mar 2012 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author shira Mar 2012 #45

I didn't say that. But I do believe the movement in general is rotten to the core. shira Mar 2012 #46

Atzmon is a lunatic, and unfortunately he has now parked himself on Britain. LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #9

Fine then. Atzmon is now totally marginalized and irrelevant. Ken Burch Mar 2012 #10

i dont understand... pelsar Mar 2012 #19

It's quite easy... Violet_Crumble Mar 2012 #25

Well-put. Thanks for that, Violet! Ken Burch Mar 2012 #38

just for the record: pelsar Mar 2012 #43

But I've never seen you condemn any violence carried out by Israel... Violet_Crumble Mar 2012 #54

That's not so at all. Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author pelsar Mar 2012 #62

actually I don't write out "i condemn violence"... pelsar Mar 2012 #63

A Response To Ali Abunimah & Co. By Gilad Atzmon oberliner Mar 2012 #32

well if this move actually managed to unite azurnoir Mar 2012 #35

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #52

Former Israeli Jew? oberliner Mar 2012 #48

that struck me as well azurnoir Mar 2012 #49

ATzmon is an Israeli expatriate who has also become an antisemite. Ken Burch Mar 2012 #50

He is certainly a former Israeli LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #78

Truth is, I actually respected this guy once. AverageJoe90 Mar 2012 #60

Psychological causes have always struck me as being likely with Atzmon. Ken Burch Mar 2012 #66

Perhaps so, Ken, perhaps so. nt. AverageJoe90 Mar 2012 #77