Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Palestinian Villages May Soon Go Dark: Israeli Government To Remove Solar Panels And Wind Turbines [View all]pelsar
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Hizballa and Hamas with Iranaian direct support attack israeli cities...i understand you support their attacks, which are defined as war crimes.
do you or don't you? (you seem to place the blame on their actions on israel....is that what your doing?)
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as far as statements from Iran about israel, as i understand the Islamic Republic of Iran News Network has several of them. The UN has commented on his statements as well, as have the German Foreign Minister, Agence France Presse. If you consider then all 'right wingers" and therefore unreliable, your making your life really easy.
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if your going to write please, please, don't attempt to insult my knowledge or intelligence with half facts. I realize it makes it easier for yourself to get to the conclusions you want, but then i have to correct you and i expect you to either revise or recant:
Israel did not attack Lebanon in 82 because of the assassination attempt, nor did israel attack lebanon because of the abduction in 2006...Israel attacked both times because of the history of continual attacks from Lebanon over a long period, the attempted assassination and the abuductions were simply the final trigger
and we better clear up this thing about disproportionate..you clearly don't understand it: its the standard, thats how wars are won. What ever they use to attack, we return with bigger and more..the concept is not a western shoot out, but to kill them quickly without getting our guys hurt. Thats how i like it and everybody i know prefers it that way and every war is won that way.
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now lets test your morality, as you seem to think you are morally superior:
your in a store, with your two kids (5yr old and 7yr old). The store is crowded and in walks two gunman. they lines up everybody (10 people) and each gunman takes turn shooting them one by one. One of them then gets to your kids, points the gun and you, by chance are hidden and have a larger gun.
I would say its reasonable to say you then point your gun and try to shoot the guy and maybe the other one as well without thinking about the wounded civilians that you might hit. correct?
now, lets make it more interesting, instead of 2 gunman there are 8 and when they get to your kids, who are now next to the 8 gunman on one side, were as the wounded are also next to the gunman on the other side, and some of the gunman are pointing the guns at your kids.....
are you going to put your automatic weapon on automatic, check the magazine to make sure its in securely and start spraying the gunman? (knowing full well that automatic gunfire is inaccurate)
or
are you going to think: my two kids lives are not worth the risk of me killing the wrong people, not all of the gunman shot those people today? and i might hit them as well as the wounded.
and then let the gunman kill your own kids because that is the "moral thing to do"
Your decision has to be made clearly within a second and you don't have all the information you would like to have....
just answer what you would do in both scenarios-be as clear as possible and then i shall return to your other questions:
we need to discover how you define your own morality......