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pelsar

(12,283 posts)
116. Pakistan-based Sunni extremist organization.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:20 AM
Feb 2012

so israel is "recruiting" islamic fanatics (which means they probably hate jews and israel) to fight other fanatic islamics?
does one set of fanatic islamists really need jews to recruit them to fight another set? (helping hamas didn't go so well...i would think they might have learned.-maybe not)

and these people are trying to kill any iranian citizen?


i think that is the jist of the difference
israel is threatening Irans nuclear facilities
Iran is threatening the whole state of israel?

Iran is threatening and actively arming a group that threatens and attacks the population of israel, Irans population is not under such a threat

and to you both positions are the same?....wow, thats some trick

Destruction of these facilites would be indefensible AnOhioan Feb 2012 #1
You'd think so... shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #2
Lol yep azurnoir Feb 2012 #8
...so sad... roody Feb 2012 #3
Ma'an has a series of articles on the Israeli demolitions of European funded Area C projects azurnoir Feb 2012 #4
Thanks. Scurrilous Feb 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author kickysnana Feb 2012 #5
Ummm... holdencaufield Feb 2012 #6
Cut off. No power, no sanitation, no medical, no jobs, no food, no education... did I miss anything. kickysnana Feb 2012 #10
"Over 100,000 of the Ghetto's residents died due to rampant disease or starvation..." oberliner Feb 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author kickysnana Feb 2012 #15
you imagine. Shaktimaan Feb 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author kickysnana Feb 2012 #36
Wait, what? You are claiming Israelis are really nazis in search of a "final solution"? Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #37
I have no words. Shaktimaan Feb 2012 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Shaktimaan Feb 2012 #39
If I was to speculate Harmony Blue Feb 2012 #91
its not the ignorance that is surprising...... pelsar Feb 2012 #16
Palwood Studios... holdencaufield Feb 2012 #17
I thought Ahmadinejad was everyone's favourite plastic Hitler... shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #24
actually nobody really knows what he will do pelsar Feb 2012 #26
Well, he's retiring in 2013 shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #27
so your an expert now in iranian politics? pelsar Feb 2012 #31
the history goes back a bit further than that shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #34
or the opposite.... pelsar Feb 2012 #40
video link is fixed... shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #41
if they hit the west bank...so pelsar Feb 2012 #42
I am confused... shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #43
why do you just make things up????? pelsar Feb 2012 #44
what is your point? Shaktimaan Feb 2012 #45
Actually, comparisons to Hitler are frequently made... shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #63
The logic is there, but that doesn't explain the rhetoric Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #65
Oh, I can explain the rhetoric... shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #74
One comment made in 1959 vs constant, repeated bleatings complete with hosting holocaust denial? Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #76
so the argument goes... shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #86
I was not aware of the specificity in shia Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #107
I don't think you can make predictions based on the technical vagaries of religions... shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #115
you seem to make up your own arguments..... pelsar Feb 2012 #77
israel is quite active in helping the jundalla attack iran shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #87
israel was attacking Iran? pelsar Feb 2012 #88
have a look shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #111
Pakistan-based Sunni extremist organization. pelsar Feb 2012 #116
re shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #117
actually their CIA funded..... pelsar Feb 2012 #118
Can you be exact please? kayecy Mar 2012 #121
words fail me.... pelsar Mar 2012 #122
How many Iranian civilians is Israel prepared to kill in order to delay the Iranian nuclear program? kayecy Mar 2012 #123
sorry i don't dodge any question put to me ..... pelsar Mar 2012 #124
I wish I could be so indifferent to my government going to war......... kayecy Mar 2012 #125
boy do you know nothing about wars..... pelsar Mar 2012 #126
You still haven't answered my question........ kayecy Mar 2012 #128
as i answer yours.....your don't answer mine....lets test your morality pelsar Mar 2012 #129
Thank you for your correction......Please write and correct Wikipedia! kayecy Mar 2012 #130
at least we now understand your morality...but how many to kill to protect your kids? pelsar Mar 2012 #131
Ah, an answer at last.......Why did it take you so long? kayecy Mar 2012 #132
not so fast....your too easily ignoring your own morals.. pelsar Mar 2012 #133
It would be immoral for me to kill innocents, even to save my children.... kayecy Mar 2012 #134
you misunderstood the question..... pelsar Mar 2012 #135
Theoretically, it would depend on the chance of me killing innocents kayecy Mar 2012 #136
patience....your questions are not difficult... pelsar Mar 2012 #137
I just said I was unlikely ever to shoot to kill another human. kayecy Mar 2012 #138
i know hitler declared war...but they didn't attack the US pelsar Mar 2012 #139
I might even join a resistance movement against the aggressor. kayecy Mar 2012 #140
..i iike to focus pelsar Mar 2012 #141
Is that an approximate extension of your hypothesis to Israel’s attack on Iran?... kayecy Mar 2012 #142
what happened to your "non hierarchy?? pelsar Mar 2012 #143
I am, of course, just trying to find out how amoral you are! kayecy Mar 2012 #144
so now the internet has a crystal ball? pelsar Mar 2012 #146
Since you appear to have difficulty using Google I will help you. .......... kayecy Mar 2012 #147
Time magazine? and "senior israeli official' Atlantic Magazine....LOL.I got some too!! pelsar Mar 2012 #149
Now this is the crux of our differences.... kayecy Mar 2012 #152
your challenge... pelsar Mar 2012 #153
Where is your moral responsibility to your kids now?........ kayecy Mar 2012 #154
authoritative reference..... pelsar Mar 2012 #155
And your considered opinion is still that Israel should proceed to attack Iran? kayecy Mar 2012 #156
i'm still asking about the "authorities" of YOURs pelsar Mar 2012 #157
I am still waiting for even one authoritative refeence from you! kayecy Mar 2012 #158
as i understand your "authorities are" pelsar Mar 2012 #159
Why do you deliberately falsify my statements? kayecy Mar 2012 #160
my mistake on the lebanon "welcoming the PLO".... pelsar Mar 2012 #161
it (Israel) deliberately, indiscriminately and recklessly bombed civilian targets ......... kayecy Mar 2012 #162
i think this i going to be difficult for you to understand.... pelsar Mar 2012 #163
Please rephrase any of the above statements you disagree with. kayecy Mar 2012 #164
thats it?... pelsar Mar 2012 #165
Hitler thought he knew what would happen when he invaded Russia....He was wrong..... kayecy Mar 2012 #166
your confusing.... pelsar Mar 2012 #167
Have you considered the possible negative outcomes?... kayecy Mar 2012 #168
the difference of the ideologue vs the open mind.... pelsar Mar 2012 #169
Why are you avoiding answering the simple question I put to you? kayecy Mar 2012 #170
simple research.... pelsar Mar 2012 #171
You have misunderstood me.....I am not asking questions..... kayecy Mar 2012 #172
where do you think i do my research? pelsar Mar 2012 #173
......and the results of any israeli attack are ambigious...... kayecy Mar 2012 #174
no no no...talk about 100% avoidance.....the mantra has zero credibility pelsar Mar 2012 #175
My answer was also clear............ kayecy Mar 2012 #177
what good would an israeli retaliatory attack do? pelsar Mar 2012 #178
Why do you persist in deliberately misunderstanding me?...... kayecy Mar 2012 #181
Kayecy, why do you persist in defining an Israeli strike on nuclear facilities... shira Mar 2012 #182
....60 million+ dead, the enslavement on Eastern Europe in your eyes was the moral choice? pelsar Mar 2012 #183
Pelsar...Do you believe Iran has the right to attack Israel?.... kayecy Mar 2012 #184
ah...so you don't like it when I speculate, but you can predict? pelsar Mar 2012 #185
It is not a question of like or dislike, merely that historical speculation is a waste of time...... kayecy Mar 2012 #186
your asking if israel has done "immoral things"..... pelsar Mar 2012 #187
I suggest you were merely expressing your own opinion ........ kayecy Mar 2012 #188
yes israel simple believes the iranian government... pelsar Mar 2012 #189
is this "illegal" business just another of your uninformed opinions?...... kayecy Mar 2012 #190
of course its my own "idiosyncratic opinion".....its my ethics and my morals... pelsar Apr 2012 #191
You are making the same assumptions that Hitler made… kayecy Apr 2012 #194
my opinions actually carry more weight than some one i don't know... pelsar Apr 2012 #195
And what about the settlements?... kayecy Apr 2012 #196
i thought it was clear that neither your nor i can read the future.... pelsar Apr 2012 #197
Has Israel shown any intention of ever returning to the Green-Line? kayecy Apr 2012 #198
you pose a classic ethical question here. Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #176
An ethical question - yes, but your response is most unethical..... kayecy Mar 2012 #179
Kayecy, Iran is behind Hezbollah, Hamas, and P.I.J. rocket attacks on Israel now.... shira Mar 2012 #180
interesting. Shaktimaan Apr 2012 #192
Your scenario is interesting but of no relevance……. kayecy Apr 2012 #193
Is that a rhetorical question or are you geniunely asking? oberliner Feb 2012 #9
Apparently not rhetorical holdencaufield Feb 2012 #11
I just alerted on it, Obie... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #21
From the OP... holdencaufield Feb 2012 #13
So, you think Israel would be totally justified in demolishing those solar panels and wind turbines? Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #18
I think that ANYONE holdencaufield Feb 2012 #19
Well, that's a pretty callous viewpoint. Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #20
And your viewpoint is disingenuous holdencaufield Feb 2012 #22
That's not my viewpoint yr describing.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #23
+10000 stockholmer Feb 2012 #29
Thank you. I think it was worth a +eventy billion, though! Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #33
You aren't seriously arguing that building solar panels is about "Demonizing Israel". Ken Burch Feb 2012 #47
Israel is clearly the victim here. It's kind of a "forced demonization". Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #93
Ah..you've uncovered the diabolical plot. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #99
Why do they have to make peace before they can build any infrastructure? Ken Burch Feb 2012 #49
The solar panels do no harm. There's no way that they could threaten Israeli security. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #46
Not when its a harmless, green power grid. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #48
Israel is guilty... holdencaufield Feb 2012 #50
Granted, a lot of countries have bureaucracy Ken Burch Feb 2012 #51
That would mean no NGO could build a power grid in Somalia Ken Burch Feb 2012 #53
Try it sometime... holdencaufield Feb 2012 #55
Here's the rub, though Ken Burch Feb 2012 #57
Pretty much the West Bank, as long as you're Jewish Israeli. Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #94
Haha. +1. Shaktimaan Feb 2012 #119
There wasnt a lot of electricity around in Ottoman times... shaayecanaan Feb 2012 #64
Form over substance... holdencaufield Feb 2012 #14
Same BS anti-Israel demonization. Different day. Apparently, haters need their daily fix. N/T shira Feb 2012 #25
Why the obsession over the permitting process? And what difference does "the legal framework" make? Ken Burch Feb 2012 #52
It's the law. The EU can't just do anything it wants in area C... shira Feb 2012 #54
Why can't the Israeli side admit that, in a situation like this, where the construction is harmless Ken Burch Feb 2012 #58
You didn't answer my question, Ken. The EU is deliberately being provocative. shira Feb 2012 #59
detestable? That's a bit harsh Ken Burch Feb 2012 #61
Yes, the EU is playing games with people's lives... shira Feb 2012 #62
Palestinians should be used to it by now. holdencaufield Feb 2012 #66
The EU isn't trying to harm Israel. Not filling out these forms doesn't threaten Israel. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #69
Whom are you talking to? holdencaufield Feb 2012 #71
What is the risk? Ken Burch Feb 2012 #67
If it's in a military Occupation zone, an area that's certain to end up in Palestine anyway Ken Burch Feb 2012 #70
I'd be REALLY curious to hear... holdencaufield Feb 2012 #72
Is there some reason that it's more threatening to have them install them in Area C? Ken Burch Feb 2012 #73
Do you think being deliberately obtuse is cute? NT holdencaufield Feb 2012 #75
I'm not being obtuse. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #80
our natural desire to make those not in power miserable---wow pelsar Feb 2012 #120
The natural desire of ANYONE in power to make anyone out of power miserable Ken Burch Mar 2012 #127
its a universal dumb statement.... pelsar Mar 2012 #145
And if it includes you, it also includes me, since I'm also of this earth Ken Burch Mar 2012 #148
position of this kind of power. pelsar Mar 2012 #150
Still avoiding the issues through personal attacks on me Ken Burch Mar 2012 #151
It's because the Israelis employ Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #95
Haaretz has picked up this story today. Matilda Feb 2012 #28
Those anti-semitic haters over at Haaretz! Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #30
Double standard time. Nasty antisemitic comments exist on the FGM and BDS facebook pages... shira Feb 2012 #35
Obviously mistranslations.... NT holdencaufield Feb 2012 #56
Leftwingers are incapable of that kind of hatred and racism. n/t shira Feb 2012 #60
Left-wingers were fighting Hitler and Mussolini while most of the Right were backing them Ken Burch Feb 2012 #68
true we love war.... most important to us..we need it pelsar Feb 2012 #78
The government, NOT the people-the two are not the same in ANY democratic society Ken Burch Feb 2012 #79
in israel the government is made up of citizens pelsar Feb 2012 #81
I was saying the political class, not the people as a whole Ken Burch Feb 2012 #82
your slander israeli citizens.... pelsar Feb 2012 #83
I read about her in that entry...but don't know enough about her to have an opinion Ken Burch Feb 2012 #84
when you stop slandering...i'll move on pelsar Feb 2012 #85
It's not "slandering" simply to make an observation-Clearly it applies to most of the government Ken Burch Feb 2012 #89
what i take "personally" is your slandering of a main stream politicians..as if they are monsters. pelsar Feb 2012 #96
I looked at the list. It doesn't really tell you that much. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #97
the list of the knesset members are regular israelis.... pelsar Feb 2012 #100
What do you think my stance is? Ken Burch Feb 2012 #101
Ken, do you realize that the top government officials you're slamming.... shira Feb 2012 #103
I don't think they(the leaders) put peace first, by any standard. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #104
You didn't answer me directly. Your response didn't mention anything about.. shira Feb 2012 #105
I did answer directly. I just didn't answer simply Ken Burch Feb 2012 #108
Have you ever considered that Israel's leaders don't see eye to eye with you? shira Feb 2012 #109
Well, yes, obviously they see the situation differently. That goes without saying. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #112
So that doesn't mean they "need" the conflict to continue... shira Feb 2012 #113
It can mean both Ken Burch Feb 2012 #114
why should i think the Palestinians leadership wants peace? pelsar Feb 2012 #106
You will never get straight answers to that post from any "pro Palestinian" advocate here. n/t shira Feb 2012 #110
Again with the "We"--I was NEVER attacking you as an individual Ken Burch Feb 2012 #102
what are you basing this on? Shaktimaan Feb 2012 #90
They don't have to say it out loud...it's in all their actions Ken Burch Feb 2012 #98
The problem is, and I have pointed this out countless times Harmony Blue Feb 2012 #92
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