Israel/Palestine

pelsar

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5. thats a nice definition...

Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:20 AM

Oct 2013

and it fits israel...and the US and Canada and Austraila, and Russia and Zimbabwa and pretty much every nation on the globe today. Infact a smart lawyer (or even a mediocre one can find fault probably with cities towns and even neighborhoods) with that broad based definition.

an example:
...of americas apartheid can be found in its neighborhoods. Using a variety of tools, (economic, social) white, elite suburban neighborhoods manage to keep out the lower income blacks from living with them....its an institutionalized system of banks, and city laws that work it out.

the conclusion is that this particular definition (there are many, just asked around) of the word has become weakened and politicalized....rendering it useless.

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If this isn't apartheid, then what is it? [View all] R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 OP

Another deliberate misrepresentation of apartheid. aranthus Oct 2013 #1

You'd be less wrong if you tried reading for a hobby. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #2

thats a nice definition... pelsar Oct 2013 #5

I love the false equivalency of the apologist brigade. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #7

the NAACP disagrees with you... pelsar Oct 2013 #9

I'm accusing you of spin to defer accountability. It's that simple. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #13

i'm still on your definition of apartheid... pelsar Oct 2013 #16

You already agreed. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #21

if that is your definition... pelsar Oct 2013 #27

Bye bye, derp. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #36

Yes, we realize you're only here to throw feces on the wall & then run. shira Oct 2013 #41

derp? pelsar Oct 2013 #86

Take it any way you like it. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #98

im asking for some help here... this derp thingy pelsar Oct 2013 #102

Thanks for the kick. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #108

no problem...thats what derps are for.... pelsar Oct 2013 #110

That's the best defense you can make of your ideology ? King_David Oct 2013 #28

Israel is apartheid on steroids mwrguy Oct 2013 #3

So is Australia, Canada, the USA....using the OP's definition of 'apartheid'. n/t shira Oct 2013 #6

SPIN spin SPIN spin SPIN spin SPIN spin SPIN spin SPIN spin SPIN spin SPIN spin SPIN spin SPIN spin R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #8

July 2013: Canada’s own Apartheid shira Oct 2013 #11

August 2013: Australia’s apartheid regime shira Oct 2013 #12

Sept 2013: Detroit is the Nexus of New American Apartheid shira Oct 2013 #14

Aug 2013: Child poverty in Britain is causing 'social apartheid' shira Oct 2013 #15

That's a very persuasive argument ... King_David Oct 2013 #31

Well, dave, I really don't care what you believe. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #35

Yes that's the ticket , very in depth analysis King_David Oct 2013 #38

"I'm sure you'll win a lot of Democrats to your way of thinking..." R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #64

Good Luck with that, King_David Oct 2013 #68

Your silence on my definition of your agenda is apt. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #69

Get moving on it you have your work cut out for you King_David Oct 2013 #70

People grow tired of apartheidist Israel, dave. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #83

RDO, can you name any current Dems in Congress or the Senate who accuse Israel.... shira Oct 2013 #42

And here come the propagandists I just mentioned. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #65

Can't name one current Dem congress critter or senator, can you? shira Oct 2013 #71

You're a day old doughnuttter. Now that we have that out of the way I shall laugh in your R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #82

Tough to acknowledge your I/P views are much closer to Pat Buchanan & David Duke.... shira Oct 2013 #91

Tough to acknowledge that you can't run from Israeli apartheid... R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #99

there you go again azurnoir Oct 2013 #117

Well then, ask yourself....are your views on I/P closer to elected Dems shira Oct 2013 #119

lol elected Dems with elected being the key word here how many elected Republicans feel the same? azurnoir Oct 2013 #121

Deflection. I rest my case. We both know whose views on I/P yours are closer to. n/t shira Oct 2013 #122

ah don't dare answer do you? why is that? azurnoir Oct 2013 #124

If the Law of Return is enough to brand Israel an Apartheid state... WatermelonRat Oct 2013 #4

Great post. These clowns who cry Israeli Apartheid.... shira Oct 2013 #73

Discrimination oberliner Oct 2013 #10

Thanks for posting azurnoir Oct 2013 #17

You're in denial of apartheid then... shira Oct 2013 #18

no I'm simply not attempting to redefine as I have no need to do that azurnoir Oct 2013 #19

So the anti-apartheid movements in the US, Australia, & Canada are wrong.... shira Oct 2013 #20

yes such groups are wrongly appropriating the word azurnoir Oct 2013 #22

so apartheid can be, and is, a political charge - right? n/t shira Oct 2013 #23

properly it is a legal one IMO azurnoir Oct 2013 #24

Lebanon's apartheid vs. Palestinian refugees is enshrined in law... shira Oct 2013 #25

geez what took you so long, I was waiting for Lebanon azurnoir Oct 2013 #26

actually lebanon does...Personal status laws pelsar Oct 2013 #30

So just like in Israel azurnoir Oct 2013 #49

and its not apartheid.... pelsar Oct 2013 #51

Nope because like in Israel that particular law is applied equally all around :) azurnoir Oct 2013 #116

So Lebanon is not apartheid since Palestinians aren't citizens.... shira Oct 2013 #40

and the West Bank is not Israel azurnoir Oct 2013 #50

we're talking apartheid and your seemingly hypocritical, double-standards.... shira Oct 2013 #57

why because you want folks here on DU to think so? azurnoir Oct 2013 #118

You don't have a consistent definition of apartheid. You have double standards. shira Oct 2013 #123

Exactly. Don't expect a hasbarist to even acknowledge the distinction you make, though. delrem Oct 2013 #29

why not? pelsar Oct 2013 #32

A case in point. delrem Oct 2013 #34

another subject you "cant talk about" (no "internet courage") pelsar Oct 2013 #52

Do you know what the term 'blithering' means, pelsar? delrem Oct 2013 #53

i just recognize a religious 'coward' pelsar Oct 2013 #54

OK, I'll explain the meaning. delrem Oct 2013 #55

and in the interest of communication... pelsar Oct 2013 #56

Hasbarah is a Hebrew word, King_David Oct 2013 #44

If I had cared, I would have guessed that you, King_David, would be stumped by my usage. delrem Oct 2013 #45

delrem, the pretense is all yours. Look @ how your fellow slanderers criticize Israeli policy.... shira Oct 2013 #61

Your right...I have absolutely no idea what you meant in this ramble, King_David Oct 2013 #76

"Explain" the vivisection of hasbara to a hasbarist? delrem Oct 2013 #77

delrem, as a Canadian are you disappointed w/ America's Democrats in Congress & the Senate? shira Oct 2013 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Oct 2013 #43

I read about Israel being an apartheid state King_David Oct 2013 #33

Why are you mumbling about sites I haven't linked to? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #37

Those sites referencing Israel as an "apartheid " state King_David Oct 2013 #39

And, on cue, King_David responds by totally ignoring the question. delrem Oct 2013 #46

There was a question? King_David Oct 2013 #47

GOOD MORNING,,,, HASBARA! delrem Oct 2013 #48

And I didn't mention anything about those sites so why are you still mumbling in the corner? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #66

I agree if the thread wasn't so hateful and biased it would be humorous King_David Oct 2013 #75

shalom again R. Daneel Olivaw.... Israeli Oct 2013 #58

on the contrary.... pelsar Oct 2013 #59

Funny how our friend Israeli votes for a Zionist political party like Meretz shira Oct 2013 #74

Funny how 'apartheid' seems to be the hardest word ...... Israeli Oct 2013 #78

Here's a tiny bit of how I understand the legal concept 'apartheid' w.r.t. I/P delrem Oct 2013 #79

and your understanding ...is just yours..based on your own world view pelsar Oct 2013 #80

"Apparently you have defined your version to "fit" the israeli/palestenians conflict" delrem Oct 2013 #85

I substituted "cookie monster" pelsar Oct 2013 #87

You have an aversion toward reading, haven't you pelsar? delrem Oct 2013 #88

actually i read a lot....but pelsar Oct 2013 #89

Don't lay your inferiority complex on me, whiner. nt delrem Oct 2013 #90

delrem, do you believe Israeli Arabs and Palestinian Arabs are 2 diff. races? n/t shira Oct 2013 #92

wow..now a "whiner"....is that another insult? pelsar Oct 2013 #95

Whiner and not hasbarist? King_David Oct 2013 #96

IMO your fixation on skin color is unhealthy. nt delrem Oct 2013 #97

I'm Jewish King_David Oct 2013 #103

You: "..if you a white guy living in Canada.." delrem Oct 2013 #104

Thread win. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #109

i cant resist..."thread win"? pelsar Oct 2013 #111

FYI: R. Daneel Olivaw is the name of a robot oberliner Oct 2013 #112

just looked it up.... pelsar Oct 2013 #113

Read thru' the responses to my #79 delrem Oct 2013 #101

The entire US Democratic Party must be extreme, hard rightwing supporters of apartheid.... shira Oct 2013 #105

maybe an explanation of the word “Hasbara” would help .... Israeli Oct 2013 #106

or...we dont like lying down and getting "run over' pelsar Oct 2013 #107

I said no such thing Mr King_David Oct 2013 #114

and even if it does?????? azurnoir Oct 2013 #120

by whom ? Israeli Oct 2013 #125

Ran Greenstein again? King_David Oct 2013 #62

Why on earth would it make anyone smile ? King_David Oct 2013 #63

Shalom Israeli. Thanks for the reading list. I will get back to you soon. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #84

Jimmy Carter disagrees. shira Oct 2013 #60

Your level of deception has increased I see. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #67

You propagandists can't keep your story straight shira Oct 2013 #72

You like to regurgitate a lot when your back is against a wall. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #81

You still believe 'Arab' is a derogatory, racist insult against non-Jews of the mideast? n/t shira Oct 2013 #93

Now let's get back to Israeli aparheid... R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #100

Your standard reply when you throw in the towel, King_David Oct 2013 #115