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Alamuti Lotus

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60. I think the WWI analogy is pretty adept
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:18 AM
Mar 2013

also thought about this after I replied yesterday. you bring up a very good analogy--the same web of complex alliances are there, though I don't think it's as much of a powerkeg in the sense that in WWI, all involved parties were really, really eager for some spark to set it all off, since few of the established powers felt they had anything real (ie: their empires) to lose in conflict. Which actually turned out to be royally fucked for most of them in the end, but that's neither here nor there. In this case, any involved sides are hoping (and I dare say, expecting? but are any of these gov'ts geniunely that naive and stupid?) the other sides will instantly fall back at the slightest provocation, since any real protracted engagement would ruin anybody. Economies in the wider sense used to be far less reactive to immediate events, now the potential for instant volatility has any serious powers too jittery to take any firm step in any direction. Thus it is always just business as usual from anybody, whatever it takes to keep the status quo, and all (this is true even considering the US-Iran "standoff" to consider one extreme) disparate parties agree at least on that.

I might just be babbling, it's early and I see it's time to leave for work.

Hezbollah Unmasked [View all] oberliner Feb 2013 OP
Oh my. And here we thought they were such nice people. bemildred Feb 2013 #1
March 14, PSP slam Hezbollah activities in Syria oberliner Feb 2013 #2
Sorry, I feel too gloomy to chat about Syria. bemildred Feb 2013 #3
Understandable oberliner Feb 2013 #5
it's remarkable to see all these direct supporters of the Syrian armed opposition.. Alamuti Lotus Feb 2013 #37
How would you like to see this all play out? oberliner Feb 2013 #43
To be fair ... holdencaufield Feb 2013 #4
Sometimes they do oberliner Feb 2013 #6
Golly, I wonder if there's anything in the history of Hezbollah... delrem Feb 2013 #29
There's a lot actually oberliner Feb 2013 #30
Not sure the conviction of Hez for those crimes is honest. But it is self-serving. n/t delrem Feb 2013 #32
Its perfectly plausible that this was Hezbollah... shaayecanaan Feb 2013 #33
True. delrem Feb 2013 #34
Hez was "founded in response to Israel's war with Lebanon in 1982" delrem Feb 2013 #35
It was founded during the war oberliner Feb 2013 #46
Well, whatever the picky details delrem Feb 2013 #49
I don't agree with the suggestion that it was only founded because of the war Alamuti Lotus Feb 2013 #50
That's why I said I would defer to folks like you oberliner Feb 2013 #51
Aaaaaaand away we go! JoDog Feb 2013 #38
I suppose you want cheese with that?? delrem Feb 2013 #39
Thank you JoDog Feb 2013 #40
You had a point that wasn't a reflection on your own post? delrem Feb 2013 #41
Exactly JoDog Feb 2013 #42
Hey, have a nice day as well! delrem Feb 2013 #48
Bulgarian Revelations Explode Hezbollah Bombing “Hypothesis” Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #7
Gareth Porter, IPS News oberliner Feb 2013 #8
Porter is an American historian, among other specifics about his credentials..quite extenisve, Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #9
He is definitely none of those things oberliner Feb 2013 #12
He is none of what things? Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #13
But no work for the Heritage Foundation or the AEI. delrem Feb 2013 #14
lol, I guess or at least until oberliner clarifies. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #15
Sorry - I had him mixed up with someone else oberliner Feb 2013 #21
Thanks, no problem. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #23
re shaayecanaan Feb 2013 #17
Not in line with the conclusions the US and Israel wanted..what a shock. Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #19
Thank you the usual "Western" press seems not to know of such information or doesn't report it azurnoir Feb 2013 #20
Al Jazeera is the usual Western press oberliner Feb 2013 #22
Its good of you to say so... shaayecanaan Feb 2013 #24
I've never portrayed Al-Jazeera in that manner oberliner Feb 2013 #25
Do you see any difference between a group like Hezbollah and al-Qaida? shaayecanaan Feb 2013 #26
Indeed I do oberliner Feb 2013 #27
Do you think thats accurate? shaayecanaan Feb 2013 #31
A lot of leaders say a lot of things oberliner Feb 2013 #47
How has your view of Hezbollah changed due to the current war within Syria? shira Feb 2013 #28
Bulgaria's other crisis bemildred Feb 2013 #10
Bulgaria's prime minister is out, but austerity remains. What's next? bemildred Feb 2013 #11
National Security Advisor, eh? I'd never heard of the guy... shaayecanaan Feb 2013 #16
It's propaganda, Hezbollah is not trying to hide it's "nature". bemildred Feb 2013 #18
Did you see Zero Dark Thirty? oberliner Feb 2013 #44
the NYTimes has been running some damn silly pieces lately on the subject.. Alamuti Lotus Feb 2013 #36
What sources do you prefer? oberliner Feb 2013 #45
Huh? Hezbollah is already involved in the Syrian war. It's in the news.... shira Feb 2013 #52
according to who, precisely? Alamuti Lotus Feb 2013 #53
Here's the March 14 Party and the Progressive Socialist Party of Lebanon.... shira Feb 2013 #54
It's almost as if I was already aware of those statements.. Alamuti Lotus Feb 2013 #55
Thanks, I have not the patience for it. bemildred Mar 2013 #56
Libya made them arrogant, Iran makes them desperate Alamuti Lotus Mar 2013 #57
Yes. I keep thinking of WWI, but it's different too. bemildred Mar 2013 #58
I was just thinking yesterday.. Alamuti Lotus Mar 2013 #59
I think the WWI analogy is pretty adept Alamuti Lotus Mar 2013 #60
Yes, that's it. bemildred Mar 2013 #61
Jumblatt: “I Am With al-Nusra Front Against Assad” Alamuti Lotus Mar 2013 #62
Special report: Hezbollah role grows as Syrian rebels gain shira Mar 2013 #63
Hezbollah’s overt interference in Syria shira Mar 2013 #64
You're still not helping your case.. Alamuti Lotus Mar 2013 #66
Hezbollah takes a greater role in Syrian conflict shira Mar 2013 #65
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