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R. Daneel Olivaw

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179. I asked you a question outright. That 20k number was yours.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:36 PM
Feb 2013

My question was who killed the 20,000 Palestinians. Who killed them?

We know that Sharon was an accessory to murder, so who were accessories to murder of the 20,000 Palestinians? Who murdered them outright?

Shira, your source is lying to you again. Scootaloo Feb 2013 #1
Wow, couldn't have said it better myself nauthiz Feb 2013 #2
Why doesn't Tibet get as much worldwide attention, advocacy, protests... as the Palestine? shira Feb 2013 #4
Maybe if you came up for air once in a while... Scootaloo Feb 2013 #8
I think shira's point is that Tibet situation is somewhat similar to Palestinian delrem Feb 2013 #9
No China is not building Chinese only roads but it is moving Chinese into Tibet azurnoir Feb 2013 #10
There's a huge but ineffectual movement to highlight the plight of Tibet under China's dictate. delrem Feb 2013 #86
all true points azurnoir Feb 2013 #87
Whatever Shira's point is, it could stand application of a bench grinder Scootaloo Feb 2013 #11
Still can't acknowledge there's a vast difference in advocacy WRT Tibet vs. IP, can you? n/t shira Feb 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Feb 2013 #22
There's really not Scootaloo Feb 2013 #23
Wow. There's not a disparity? Total Denial. Where are the Flytillas, BDS, UN non-stop action? shira Feb 2013 #27
You're really boinging all over the place, aren't you? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #35
One point from start to finish.... Not one UNGA resolution since 1965. shira Feb 2013 #42
Good! you did some research! Scootaloo Feb 2013 #49
So let's agree the UN isn't about HR's as much as much as it's about politics. shira Feb 2013 #51
Agree with the first, not so much the second Scootaloo Feb 2013 #55
So when the UN passes far more resolutions vs. Israel than many... shira Feb 2013 #57
Not necessarily. Scootaloo Feb 2013 #64
I agree the UN doesn't give a f-ck about sub-Saharan Africa. That it's deeply racist.... shira Feb 2013 #65
I just did a little research... Scootaloo Feb 2013 #69
Both sources are right. No contradiction.... shira Feb 2013 #70
Another word you don't understand is apartheid... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #77
So when the UN denies only Israel equal representation, what would you call that? shira Feb 2013 #89
It's not about what I call anything. It's about you using terms you don't understand... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #91
Well then, do you see anything wrong in both cases... shira Feb 2013 #93
What was that you said, Shira? You think you need to learn what the term apartheid means? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #95
Looks like more deflection from you. Same thing you do in other threads.... shira Feb 2013 #97
Deflection would be you ignoring any attempts to correct things you get wrong... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #105
You're still deflecting & playing games w/ semantics and definitions. shira Feb 2013 #112
Do you refer to the Palestinians as Palestinians or R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #117
No, I'm not. I just don't follow you down all the rabbit holes you insist on going down in threads.. Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #146
So the UN doesn't allow Israel the same rights as other countries because..... shira Feb 2013 #150
So yr all sorted out now that the term apartheid doesn't apply to the UN? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #154
Rubbish King_David Feb 2013 #100
My, oh my how you keep on beating that drum KingD! R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #101
Just content that your views on "Apartheid" and The Jewish State King_David Feb 2013 #107
I can not Thank you enough that comment azurnoir Feb 2013 #108
Israel is the state of Bnai Israel King_David Feb 2013 #109
yes we've gone over that one before azurnoir Feb 2013 #110
Needs negotiating King_David Feb 2013 #111
Wouldn't that make it the 75% Jewish state? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #116
It is what it is King_David Feb 2013 #125
Perhaps the questions were too tough for you? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #126
It was an adequate answer for "the question " nt King_David Feb 2013 #129
What a lousy answer lacking substance. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #131
We don't take orders. nt King_David Feb 2013 #134
What's wrong, KingD? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #139
Would you rather we call it the 'Torture state?' R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #115
The USA" is not the world " King_David Feb 2013 #121
You're showing your 'tell' again. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #122
Ha ha ha King_David Feb 2013 #124
Not rubbish. Its misused in post #57 Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #104
LOL I got lost in this conversation thread nt King_David Feb 2013 #106
Shira's point is confusing. First, Tibetans aren't Chinese, as they will be first to tell you. leveymg Feb 2013 #173
Right on point 1. Not so much on points 2 and 3. n/t shira Feb 2013 #188
Nope. Tibet is far worse. Hans transferring in, over 1 million killed, monks in exile, tortured... shira Feb 2013 #15
I rarely agree with Shira, but please, please, please cali Feb 2013 #164
Agreed. There's no comparison b/w media attention on Tibet vs. Palestine. n/t shira Feb 2013 #184
and why do you think that is shira please explain in detail azurnoir Feb 2013 #185
1. You think 100 Palestinian igniting themselves would garner more International attention? shira Feb 2013 #3
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #26
Do a search on DU oberliner Feb 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Feb 2013 #6
Surprisingly, it was! Scootaloo Feb 2013 #7
What nonsense. All you're doing is deflecting.... shira Feb 2013 #12
No flotillas to Tibet? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #13
No Flytillas either. Got an excuse for that one? n/t shira Feb 2013 #14
This is your first foray into anything Tibet-related, isn't it? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #21
Boy, you're reaching. This is too easy. Tibet has airports, doesn't it? shira Feb 2013 #33
That's your counter-argument? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #34
Admit it. Shira has cleverly destroyed you with her amazing logical rebuttal... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #37
I can't be the only one who's been tempted to change coats... Scootaloo Feb 2013 #39
I did consider it last night, but any post doing that would get hidden swiftly... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #76
"most reliable way to get there is to drive west, from some other part of china. " King_David Feb 2013 #43
China occupies Tibet and it's seen as being part of China. Why? n/t Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #73
The argument isn't just about Tibet having an airport. Left/Right wing activists.... shira Feb 2013 #67
But you were demanding flotillas and flytillas head there! Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #75
Hey! Give shira a break! delrem Feb 2013 #83
If I had a dollar for every bit of Godwinising I've seen, I'd be a multimillionaire... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #85
Flotillas, Flytillas, BDS, UN resolutions... Something, anything. shira Feb 2013 #90
Like others here, I'm thinking yr sudden interest in Tibet is just a bit fake... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #92
The point is that zealoted groups obsessed about Israel (FreeGaza, BDS, ISM, UNHRC, CodePink) shira Feb 2013 #94
I'm not understanding why you said 'you guys' then... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #96
I didn't say "you guys" in the post you're responding to. That's just another deflection.... shira Feb 2013 #98
No, you said it two posts before, and I started asking what the hell you meant by it... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #103
The point about Israel = Nazis is that it's used an awful lot WRT Israel.... shira Feb 2013 #113
How would you know no-one has ever Godwinised when it comes to China? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #145
There are more Dalai Lama = Nazi comparisons in google.... shira Feb 2013 #148
Shira: I never claimed no one has ever Godwinized WRT China, only that it generally doesn't happen.' Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #152
The Godwinizing is so rare WRT China, it's close to never.... shira Feb 2013 #153
But you said repeatedly it NEVER happened. Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #155
The China = Nazi comparison is generally not made. It's rare..... shira Feb 2013 #157
But you said it was NEVER made, Shira. Not once, but several times... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #158
I was so, so wrong. I should've known better. Perhaps you can find.... shira Feb 2013 #159
No need to get sarcastic, Shira.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #160
I didn't think you'd answer the question. All you have are deflections. shira Feb 2013 #161
Shira, another word yr misuing is 'deflection'... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #162
It means a change in direction. Pretty much your modus operandi here. shira Feb 2013 #163
Nah, I've been sticking real close to talking about the claim you made... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #165
So now that you know what I mean, why not answer? I thought you wanted civil.... shira Feb 2013 #166
Actually, I've got no idea what you mean. You seem to type things you later say mean something else. Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #167
Psssst. You haven't mentioned hot air balloons. Change the subject again. Mention hot air balloons. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #141
This is what I mean by silly back-and-forth oberliner Feb 2013 #143
No, this is just called lulz, Oberiner. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #144
What's a mench? oberliner Feb 2013 #174
"This is what I mean by silly back-and-forth" R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #176
Lulz is all they have. When they know they're wrong, they deflect. shira Feb 2013 #156
No. The point is that you were caught dead to rights. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #18
Where are the Flytilla folks? BDS? The UN special emergency sessions? Endless op-eds.... shira Feb 2013 #24
I believe that you have become the Flytilla. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #25
You're the humanist b/w the 2 of us. Maybe you should be advocating for a Flytilla, BDS.... shira Feb 2013 #32
So you're not a humanist? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #142
You're the one proudly boasting with lulz that you are.... shira Feb 2013 #149
My question was who killed the 20,000 Palestinians. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #175
Israel murdered 20K Palestinians outright? That includes Hamas, 1948 war...? shira Feb 2013 #177
I asked you a question outright. That 20k number was yours. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #179
So now 20K weren't murdered? And "we" know Sharon was an accessory to murder? shira Feb 2013 #180
My question was who killed the 20,000 Palestinians? Who killed them? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #181
You think when Israel kills militants/terrorists, it's murder? shira Feb 2013 #182
That 20k number was yours. You own it. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #183
An extraordinary excellent post. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #17
+ Infinity R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #19
Good stuff oberliner Feb 2013 #44
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #189
Ronn Torossian Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #20
While there is so much talk about about "shenanigans" azurnoir Feb 2013 #28
What country is Tibet in? oberliner Feb 2013 #29
Not of the Tibetans had anything to say about it. pangaia Feb 2013 #30
Tibet is not part of China anymore than West Bank/Palestine is Israel azurnoir Feb 2013 #31
Careful, you'll confuse him. Scootaloo Feb 2013 #36
Oh those "Zionists" King_David Feb 2013 #45
Find me an argument in support of China's occupation of Tibet that isn't mirrored by Zionists Scootaloo Feb 2013 #46
Tell me which is worse to you? China or Israel's occupation? And why. n/t shira Feb 2013 #63
I'm pretty sure Anti Zionist is an absolute King_David Feb 2013 #72
Huh? Aren't the pro-Israeli ones in this thread Zionists? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #74
Thats A hidden post King_David Feb 2013 #78
Did you read that hidden post? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #79
I was talking about another posters many antiZionist King_David Feb 2013 #80
I think some here just like flinging round accusations of anti-Zionism.. Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #81
Search for the term " unicorn" King_David Feb 2013 #82
I read that thread. Yr talking about Scoot so there's no need to be coy... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #84
That post was deservedly hidden by a Jury King_David Feb 2013 #99
All dissenting voices must be silenced, Dave? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #120
When it comes to Anti Zionist King_David Feb 2013 #123
Are you even trying to make a point? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #127
As much as your "point" was nt King_David Feb 2013 #128
My point is, you want dissenting voices silenced so only your position can be heard Scootaloo Feb 2013 #130
I'm getting the same. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #132
Your ridiculois point was Democratic Party King_David Feb 2013 #133
So you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Gotcha. Scootaloo Feb 2013 #135
AntiZionism in the USA is considered King_David Feb 2013 #136
Ah-huh. I have something for you, Dave... Scootaloo Feb 2013 #137
Who is Dave? oberliner Feb 2013 #138
... Scootaloo Feb 2013 #140
Extremists on the extreme right and on the extreme left King_David Feb 2013 #147
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tibetans don't identify as Chinese.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #38
There is actually quite a lot of active international opposition to the Tibet occupation LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #40
Not one UN resolution since 1965.... shira Feb 2013 #41
No matter how hard you whine, reality is not going to alter for you. Scootaloo Feb 2013 #47
Why isn't there even a fraction as much concern for Tibet as there is Palestine? shira Feb 2013 #50
I'm not pretending; it really does not exist Scootaloo Feb 2013 #52
So why hail the the UN when it's politically compromised and bigoted? shira Feb 2013 #54
You're boinging again. Scootaloo Feb 2013 #59
That's all you can say about the UN? It's imperfect? On human rights, it's beyond odious... shira Feb 2013 #61
Yes, it's imperfect Scootaloo Feb 2013 #66
A UN that is deeply racist against sub-Saharan Africa, electing Libya, Cuba, Syria..... shira Feb 2013 #68
That is in fact exactly how I describe Israel Scootaloo Feb 2013 #71
So Israel is imperfect? Like the UN, USA, Saudi Arabia? n/t shira Feb 2013 #88
Are you having trouble understanding what I just told you? n/t Scootaloo Feb 2013 #118
Well yeah, that's why I asked those questions. n/t shira Feb 2013 #151
But I just SAID that's what I think Scootaloo Feb 2013 #186
Ala kysy kuolleilta, he sanoivat, Ambulanssikuskitar! R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #119
You are assuming this, because you only have your antennae out for criticism of Israel LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #102
If 100 Palestinians self-immolate demanding their rights, do you expect.... shira Feb 2013 #114
An completely dishonest representation of when and how often the UN allegedly Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #48
So what are the agony aunts, renders of garments, and hand wringers doing since 1965....? shira Feb 2013 #53
You may believe that if you post ridiculous responses like this enough you'll become Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #56
Imagine the outrage and gnashing of teeth had 100 Palestinians self-combusted.... shira Feb 2013 #58
If you like, re-read what I already stated and the link. Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #60
Oh? You answered this? Which post number, please? n/t shira Feb 2013 #62
Recced coz this is one of the funniest threads I've seen in ages! Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #168
Good. In the future, it'll remind you that your favorite advocacy groups.... shira Feb 2013 #169
I don't play favourites, and it's not them who is zealoted and obsessive... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #170
If the Lefty types you know and respect support Tibet.... shira Feb 2013 #171
WTF? My friends don't make Nazi comparisons... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #172
Friends like the ISM, etc. Organizations you used to support.... shira Feb 2013 #178
Again WTF?? They're not my friends. Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #187
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