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Response to shira (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:10 PM

36. Those are massively important things to ALL Palestnians...why would they NOT be?

And there's nothing Israel could ever give Palestine that could ever possibly make up for keeping the settlements and truncating Palestine's borders down to nothing(which is what keeping the settlements would mean).

I don't accept your take on Abbas and the PA...or about Palestinians in general...if they were TOTALLY unwilling to accept Israel, they wouldn't have signed the Oslo Accords. They'd have just kept on with the most violent tactics with no interrruption...as opposed to the reality, when they did reduce or even at times largely suspend violence.

Besides, even if you were correct about Abbas, how would keeping the settlement blocs CHANGE any of those attitudes among Palestinians? If they were driven solely by an unwillingness to accept Israel, that couldn't be changed simply by keeping Palestine under military occupation indefinitely. When you keep a people under such an occupation(and no, you can't compare this to the occupations of Japan and Germany in the late 1940's because those were POSTWAR occupations and were administered largely nonviolently), all you can possibly achieve is to harden attitudes among that people...to create more extreme leaderships, more extreme choices. Occupation doesn't moderate anybody.



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