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The PLO isn't interested in 2 states. Simply put, they will not recognize a Jewish state.... shira Jan 2013 #1
Israel isn't interested in 2 states. Simply put, they will not recognize Palestinian state... delrem Jan 2013 #2
"Simply put" LOL! aquart Jan 2013 #4
"Simply put" LOL! delrem Jan 2013 #5
Israel agreed to the Clinton Parameters in 2000-01. The Palestinians rejected them. shira Jan 2013 #11
And Netanyahu ended it all. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #45
I think its about 50% shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #50
And the anti-hasbardos demand that the Palestinians reject any Israeli offer oberliner Jan 2013 #58
You nailed it! They'd rather see the refugees die than the PLO accept a reasonable offer. n/t shira Jan 2013 #62
I'm still sort of stunned that Abbas came out and said that oberliner Jan 2013 #76
The anti-hasbarados can't spin that and they'll keep pretending he never said it... shira Jan 2013 #78
"and they'll keep pretending he never said it..." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #98
No one has spun it in any direction, have they, oberliner? Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #91
That is absolutely false... shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #93
It is categorically and demonstrably true oberliner Jan 2013 #94
Are you alleging that the Palestine Papers are fake? shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #95
You're citing Jonathan Cook (fan of the neo-nazi Gilad Atzmon) WRT a 2001 video... shira Jan 2013 #55
I'm not sure how you can keep spinning fiction and believe R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #87
Yup. aquart Jan 2013 #3
Yeah, most people don't give up their rights Scootaloo Jan 2013 #8
Which Right? RoR? There is no such right. And neither the PLO or Hamas has the right.... shira Jan 2013 #10
LEGAL ASPECTS OF THE RIGHT TO RETURN Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #12
UNGA resolutions are non-binding recommendations. Got anything else? shira Jan 2013 #16
Got anything else?? You'd first need to accomplish some line of legal consensus. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #28
There are 2 things you missed from my last post to you.... shira Jan 2013 #29
Not International law, eh? You not only do not read, you do not comprehend. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #36
The European Court of Human Rights ruled that RoR is bogus.... shira Jan 2013 #37
You're for real, that's the sad thing here..you still haven't read your own OP. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #40
LOL. There must be different International Law for Europe... shira Jan 2013 #41
The OPINION you posted states that...and you do not recall that or do you Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #42
Huh? I'm pointing to the European Court on HR recent judgment.... shira Jan 2013 #43
No, don't walk away from your LOL now..tell me why you do not explain Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #44
"Under international law." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #46
Does International Law apply to the Cyprus situation? Yes or No? shira Jan 2013 #57
That's a rather narrow brush question for such a multi-part answer. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #88
I only used the OP to point to the case. I have no idea why International Law.... shira Jan 2013 #54
You have no idea what you're talking about period..your choice Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #59
You've been playing games & deflecting for many posts now... shira Jan 2013 #61
Deflect from what? Your OP, that you have no clue as say what he means but you posted it regardless. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #64
You're deflecting from the ECHR decision against Greek Cypriot RoR. shira Jan 2013 #65
I've done no such thing. How is it applicable to Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #66
The ruling goes to show there is no such thing as absolute, unqualified RoR. shira Jan 2013 #68
Holy shit, you write this with delusions of grandure. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #70
The Greeks weren't the aggressor when the Turks invaded Cyprus & ethnically cleansed them shira Jan 2013 #73
The Palestinians were the aggressor,you know that to be false. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #75
They started a civil war months prior to the big war in 1948 shira Jan 2013 #77
Logic and reasoning per shira and your revisionist history lessons you spew Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #89
Your constant editing..your OP does not explain nor do you Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #67
You misunderstand. The ruling shows there is no guarantee of unqualified, absolute RoR. shira Jan 2013 #69
I know what the ruling said. YOU claim it supports your statement Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #71
Then you'd know the ruling says you're wrong about RoR. n/t shira Jan 2013 #80
The ruling does not support your blanket claim. The issue should be resolved Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #90
It's not that Shira holds human rights in contempt Scootaloo Jan 2013 #49
Repugnant statements, she does well. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #60
Does the European Court of Human Rights hold human rights in contempt? shira Jan 2013 #63
There have been numerous European court decisions that have gone the other way... shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #51
But that's compensation, not RoR. Exactly my point. shira Jan 2013 #52
You state they, the Palestinians, have no right, period. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #72
They have no right period to what Hamas and the PLO are demanding. shira Jan 2013 #74
Israel is only a small part of Palestine. Cary Jan 2013 #83
Shira, that statement is far beyond ignorant. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #48
If there was a RoR, why did the European Court of HR vote against it.... shira Jan 2013 #53
My guess would be "asskissing for diplomatic reasons" Scootaloo Jan 2013 #92
Apartheid state? Seriously ? zellie Jan 2013 #6
Looks like a duck, walks like a duck...indeed! eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #7
There goes that theory... again zellie Jan 2013 #9
well that's so nice they got an Israeli citizen who's an Arab to talk up their own country however azurnoir Jan 2013 #13
Good to know. zellie Jan 2013 #14
the PLO which is headed by Abbas recognized Israel as a sovereign state 20 years ago azurnoir Jan 2013 #15
The PLO wants RoR, as you do. Thus, 2 Palestinian states or 3 if Gaza is counted. shira Jan 2013 #17
shira you do realize that there simply are not enough Palestinians for 2 or 3 states azurnoir Jan 2013 #19
If the refugees aren't going to choose to go to Israel, then why are they still in camps? shira Jan 2013 #20
the refugees are still in camps because Israelrefuses to allow any of them to return in accordance azurnoir Jan 2013 #22
That doesn't make sense. If so many Palestinians do not want to go to Israel.... shira Jan 2013 #23
a good number of Palestinians have chosen to go elsewhere as you put it azurnoir Jan 2013 #25
So the reason they haven't been given a choice the past 60 years is.......? shira Jan 2013 #31
I think most would chose their own country azurnoir Jan 2013 #34
They should have been granted their choice decades ago. It's disturbing.... shira Jan 2013 #38
Fascinating reply and quite timely too :) n/t azurnoir Jan 2013 #39
I would have to agree. Is there a Freudiam schlep in the works? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #47
So why weren't they given the choice to live where they wanted (outside of Israel).... shira Jan 2013 #56
So why weren't they given the >>choice to live where they wanted<< R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #86
Belgium? shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #96
You know what makes me sad? zellie Jan 2013 #18
why do you chose to ignore the fact that the PLO recognized Israel 2 decades ago? azurnoir Jan 2013 #21
Honestly zellie Jan 2013 #24
oh so it was not good enough Isee thanks azurnoir Jan 2013 #26
Yes, it was nice....20 years ago. zellie Jan 2013 #27
Their actions speak louder than their signing of a piece of paper 20 years ago shira Jan 2013 #30
oh thanks more rightwing links azurnoir Jan 2013 #32
Oh great, more denying, ignoring, and explaining away Palestinian intransigence shira Jan 2013 #33
oh no shira I enjoy your posts azurnoir Jan 2013 #35
The wrong side . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #79
Labor/Meretz leadership offered a fair deal in 2000-01 while settlement construction cont'd.... shira Jan 2013 #81
Fair to whom? another_liberal Jan 2013 #82
So a fair deal to you would be for Israel to fold, surrender, and be absorbed.... shira Jan 2013 #84
Israel will never "surrender" . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #85
Apartheid is inevitable--the Israeli electorate will permit no other outcome. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #97
They are already there. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #99
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