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Violet_Crumble

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44. Here's something for you to read on the fixation of Islamophobes like Chesler with honour killings..
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:55 AM
Jan 2013
Honor Killings: The Epidemic that Isn’t

My previous article describes how anti-Muslim bigots use young Muslim murder victims as props in their campaign of hate. Sensational headlines, haunting photographs, and lurid tales of cold blooded murder are indispensable tools in their campaign to vilify Islam. This campaign is bolstered by a set of core themes that are reinforced through tireless repetition.

Islamophobes portray honor killings as a special kind of evil that is unique to Islam, and greatly exaggerate the prevalence of these crimes. Atlas Shrugs, Jihad Watch, and Frontpage Magazine rarely miss an opportunity use the phrase “Islamic honor killing,” which has joined “creeping sharia” and “stealth jihad” in an endless parade of misleading slogans and catchphrases. All of these themes converge in paranoid conspiracy theories about Muslims taking over and imposing barbarism in the Western world.

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The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) estimates there are 5,000 murders classified as honor killings each year worldwide, and they are not all perpetrated by Muslims. To put that into perspective, consider that the World Health Organization says there are over half a million annual homicides in the world. Using basic math, we can conclude that honor killings make up less than 1% of all murders.

If 1% of the world’s Muslims perpetrated an honor crime each year, we could project at least 1 million incidents. The number is far lower, and leaves 99.99% of the Muslim population innocent of this crime. Why should all Muslims be indicted for the actions of a negligible minority?

Pamela Geller says, “over 90% of honor killings worldwide are Islamic,” and Robert Spencer quotes the exact figure at 91%. Chesler quotes the same estimate of 5,000 annual honor killings worldwide, but she says the true number is “much greater.” “Definitive or reliable worldwide estimates of honor killing incidence do not exist,” she concedes, yet she is somehow certain the the number is much greater. Spencer links to an article on the Middle East Forum as the source of this statistic. This is an anti-Muslim propaganda site founded by Daniel Pipes, and the articlethere is authored by Phyllis Chesler, who is yet another rabid Islamophobe.

http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/2011/09/29/honor-killings-the-epidemic-that-isn%e2%80%99t/

Oh, and here's a pic from the article of Chesler with her stablemate Pam Geller. Not only are these people RW extremists, but they're Muslim-hating bigots as well. Now can you see the problem with pointing to anything by any of them to bolster an argument yr trying to make?

"... not ready yet to confront conservative forces." Turbineguy Dec 2012 #1
Abbas is a conservative force in favor of sharia law, et al. n/t shira Dec 2012 #7
I think here that is code for Hamas n/t azurnoir Dec 2012 #11
'Conservative' and 'anti-women' often seem to have similar meanings LeftishBrit Dec 2012 #2
Thank you for the link azurnoir Dec 2012 #3
Where else do they take place and what are they called? nt King_David Dec 2012 #12
already answered down thread n/t azurnoir Dec 2012 #13
Jordanian law is identical to (most) Australian laws... shaayecanaan Dec 2012 #4
Do you not know what an honor killing is? oberliner Dec 2012 #5
Do you know what honor killing is? azurnoir Dec 2012 #10
Oh is see every society right? King_David Dec 2012 #14
thank you for your reply I see according to you only Muslims azurnoir Dec 2012 #15
In whats called an honor killing ? nt King_David Dec 2012 #17
quite frankly many killings of females by framily members could be called honor killings azurnoir Dec 2012 #18
There's a concerted effort King_David Dec 2012 #19
well not quite IMO as low killing children is even lower IMO azurnoir Dec 2012 #20
Yes that is true. nt King_David Dec 2012 #23
glad we can agree at least on that azurnoir Dec 2012 #24
Agree. zellie Dec 2012 #35
You are wrong again oberliner Dec 2012 #21
yes it would be a scandal azurnoir Dec 2012 #22
Can you provide an example? oberliner Dec 2012 #25
I am basing that on conservative values areas of the country azurnoir Dec 2012 #27
more over here is an example from India azurnoir Dec 2012 #28
In the U.S. the girl's father or brother would be more likely to track down and kill the rapist. Raksha Dec 2012 #36
that's just absurd and Orwellian cali Dec 2012 #29
yes it does have a very specific history your right azurnoir Dec 2012 #30
once again, honey, you're entitled to your own opinion but not your cali Dec 2012 #32
fact is honor killing is murder period azurnoir Dec 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author azurnoir Dec 2012 #31
"Honor " killings have nothing to do with adultery King_David Dec 2012 #9
There are very few studies but the best I found was this zellie Dec 2012 #34
Urgh. Yr citing a RW extremist like Chesler as a reputable source? Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #37
I'm sorry zellie Jan 2013 #39
So you don't have any problem at all with citing RW anti-Muslim extremists? Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #40
If you find it unacceptable , ok. zellie Jan 2013 #41
No, I want to know why you wouldn't have a problem with using stinky anti-Muslim sources... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #42
I didn't research this site. zellie Jan 2013 #43
No worries. I posted a bit more below about them that you might be interested in n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #45
Here's something for you to read on the fixation of Islamophobes like Chesler with honour killings.. Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #44
There is no honor in murder of any kind. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #6
Wow....just wow. zellie Dec 2012 #8
It is disappointing and by no means understandable that Abbas would take this stance azurnoir Dec 2012 #16
How will it not help? Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #38
yes in both a real politik sense and an idealogical manner it does matter azurnoir Jan 2013 #46
That translates to mean 'we in the West are looking for any reason to not give you a state' Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #47
yes but there it is and there is a contingent in the US that is doing just that azurnoir Jan 2013 #48
I wonder how long mr. al-Ouri will keep his job? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #26
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