Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Settlements are not the great obstacle to Mid-East peace [View all]delrem
(9,688 posts)Your argument no longer rests on the concept of "nationality" at all!!!
(By the way, you should look up instances where states/countries recognize multiple "nations", each having distinct properties and rights under the greater whole - it certainly *is* possible - in fact, it is the norm.)
You're now saying that Israel is a Jewish *country*, and Jews rule that *country*, and Israeli non-Jews *must be* SUBJUGATED to a Jewish demographic majority if Israel is to survive. I rightly say "subjugated" because in this context that's what "rule" means. When "existential survival" of a country demands that rule over that country be allocated NOT to a mere majority of citizens whoever those citizens may be, but to an identifiable demographic group, whether "whites" or "hispanic" or "Jewish" or ... and whether the group be called "sect" or "nation" or "race"..., then that country is a *tyranny* of one group over all others.
That awful "demographic threat" argument is exactly what you vociferousness *denied* in another thread!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=26342
And even then you hemmed and hawed.
Israel prides itself on being a democracy, so prides itself on being a country where *the majority of citizens* rule, not one in which some "nation" or "sect" rules. Again, you're just showing your O'Reilly like fear that, if the Palestinians were given the RoR that they're justified to according as international law, there'd be a demographic shift and a status quo that favors one group (yours!) of Israelis over another would shift. Just like the O'Reilly types are scared shitless of immigration, of minority birthrates, etc.
In any case, regardless of whether Israel's Jewish community maintains a substantial demographic majority, you cannot stop the minds of the individual Israeli Jewish citizens from changing, "evolving" (in Obama's words), perhaps becoming less fearful, perhaps recognizing the full human rights of Israel's minorities, including a RoR. What would you do then???