Israel/Palestine

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

52. ignoring the topic?

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:01 AM

Dec 2012

nope that is what is going on here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113425659

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113425696

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113425544

odd though you don't seem at all concerned hmmmmm

however I already gave my opin ion on this thread but I will repeat it just for you

comparing Israel's actions vis a vis Palestinians to Nazi's is inaccurate and wrong however a comparison to South Africa during the apartheid years is indeed far more accurate IMO and that is in agreement with and drawn from that of Desmond Tutu

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Comparing Nazis to Israelis is unacceptable [View all] King_David Dec 2012 OP

Then the Israeli state should not act like Nazis. Deep13 Dec 2012 #1

Proving this guy's point, King_David Dec 2012 #2

I've never seen an Israeli skin a cat. holdencaufield Dec 2012 #3

It always comes down to individuals. Individual people and the choices they make, Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #48

Well that's helpful holdencaufield Dec 2012 #49

It's helpful, for me, to recognize the individuality & value of human beings. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #56

Wise words. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #70

Sometimes Israel`s opponents , Extreme Right and Extreme Left come together and long for the past, King_David Dec 2012 #4

That is awful RobertEarl Dec 2012 #5

"Israel is no longer a friend of this American." holdencaufield Dec 2012 #6

$80billion support to Israel and you can ask a question like that?......n/t kayecy Dec 2012 #7

Of course Israel was RobertEarl Dec 2012 #8

Just curious to see how honest you would be holdencaufield Dec 2012 #9

Do you think Palestinians are criminals? RobertEarl Dec 2012 #10

No, of course not ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #30

Israel has never been a friend of America. Sam1 Dec 2012 #80

Apparently ... you misunderstood the question holdencaufield Dec 2012 #81

I was thinking more along the lines of the AIPAC and Sam1 Dec 2012 #86

"I was thinking ... of the AIPAC" holdencaufield Dec 2012 #95

you would lose. Sam1 Dec 2012 #109

The majority of antisemites ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #110

that an articulate well organized minority of American citizens has supported it at all costs" King_David Dec 2012 #83

The Simple Reply is NO! The longer reply is that the AIPAC is to Israel what the NRA is to guns. Sam1 Dec 2012 #87

there's a powerful documentary film Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #11

That's all it takes? A wall? Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #12

you might watch the film. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #14

It doesn't change the fact the analogy is weak and pathetic. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #18

I've watched tons of movies about the nazis & the holocaust. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #20

I have. And your admission makes it even more sad you use such analogies. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #25

hahahaaha, what? because we watch movies that don't praise what's going on isreal? Robeysays Dec 2012 #41

please don't make assumptions about me, it's not relevant. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #42

It was your analogy; you made the post! Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #47

You are trying to make me wrong in this discussion, for no good reason. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #50

I threw a shoe over this fence and the dog whelped. Robeysays Dec 2012 #53

Who are the dogs in this scenario? holdencaufield Dec 2012 #84

No, I am not trying to paint you as "wrong." Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #59

My point of view is that human beings need peace. Each one, including you and me. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #103

Hmmmm.... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #82

I'm not making the comparison. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #88

You wrote ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #93

please stop. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #98

I am pretty sure that Hamas does indeed want the wall down.. King_David Dec 2012 #89

And you will find that most everyone on this board hates that wall just as much. Robeysays Dec 2012 #24

Again, showing that the analogy is weak and pathetic. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #26

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #38

You're educated and providing links to anti-Semitic hate sites? Interesting. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #40

ROFL Robeysays Dec 2012 #44

And you are what you are. But, then you knew that. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #46

haha, man I'm over this. Robeysays Dec 2012 #51

Some progressive , King_David Dec 2012 #90

Plenty of 'supporters' of Israel link to ultra right wing websites... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #121

Not really , King_David Dec 2012 #124

Yes, really. Or are you trying to claim 'supporters' of Israel don't link to extreme RW sites? Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #127

Thanks for that, Voice RobertEarl Dec 2012 #13

I think it's all incredibly sad and stupid. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #16

Another post proving the OP correct, King_David Dec 2012 #91

Why would it? holdencaufield Dec 2012 #33

Facists are facists. Robeysays Dec 2012 #15

And yet, another example of the OP article. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #19

yet another example of cognative dissonance. Robeysays Dec 2012 #22

You are correct, but it yours, both the cognative dissonance and hypocrisy. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #27

yeah okay. Robeysays Dec 2012 #45

"Freedom of speech and expression <<< Calling any one I want a Nazi if i feel like it." King_David Dec 2012 #92

you do realize that the poster can not reply don't you? azurnoir Dec 2012 #94

Makes no difference to me King_David Dec 2012 #97

the post was challanged by the poster that it was made in reply to azurnoir Dec 2012 #99

No problem. nt King_David Dec 2012 #100

apparently not for however IMO azurnoir Dec 2012 #101

It's not "just" a debate for some of us. nt King_David Dec 2012 #102

ah I see that justifies your responses okay azurnoir Dec 2012 #104

Not sure what you getting at and this part of King_David Dec 2012 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Dec 2012 #118

Guess it was not overkill. King_David Dec 2012 #119

What a shame the Islamophobes aren't treated the same way... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #120

I disagree ,completely. nt King_David Dec 2012 #125

You can disagree. It's a fact that admin don't treat Islamophobia like they do antisemitism... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #126

so you do not have a problem with Islamiphobia? your comment could be read like that azurnoir Dec 2012 #130

Of course I have an equal problem with Islamaphobia as I do with antisemitism, King_David Dec 2012 #133

That's a relief to know. I hope you'll start speaking out against Islamophobic posts in future... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #140

Find me the post, King_David Dec 2012 #142

That changes nothing I still think it is a nasty tactic to reply to someone when you know they azurnoir Dec 2012 #131

Some comments can not go unchallenged nt King_David Dec 2012 #134

Yes, it is. Yet... Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #17

so in your opinion comparing Israeli's to Nazi's is worse than calling a Black person a n*gger ? azurnoir Dec 2012 #21

I know right. Robeysays Dec 2012 #23

Show me where I said that? Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #28

your comment certainly inferred it IMO azurnoir Dec 2012 #29

It isn't a matter if I say no, it is that you falsely accused me of something. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #32

I gave my opinion which you apparently would rather continue to go on with this azurnoir Dec 2012 #35

Yes, and I know why, I was able to infer that as well. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #37

so or not it is that was also expected thanks n/t azurnoir Dec 2012 #39

As was your false conclusions and ignoring the topic. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #43

ignoring the topic? azurnoir Dec 2012 #52

And yet, I wasn't in ANY of those threads. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #55

yes I am quite aware of that azurnoir Dec 2012 #62

Much like your avoiding the topic of this one in this conversation...what is it you said...Oh yes: Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #63

and the topic is? comparing Israel's to Nazi's azurnoir Dec 2012 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #66

That's... a weird stretch, Azurnoir Scootaloo Dec 2012 #58

we've already discussed it but it nice to see BtA has a such a good friend here thanks azurnoir Dec 2012 #60

No, I got that Scootaloo Dec 2012 #67

yes I agree and said pretty much the same thing just more briefly azurnoir Dec 2012 #68

Thank you! Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #61

It is a bad comparison, a fair one would be ... Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #31

That may be closer, but it still missing components. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #34

IMO South Africa would bge closer azurnoir Dec 2012 #36

Comparing Nazis to Israelis is unacceptable or Grey Dec 2012 #54

Well, that's an awkward title... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #57

I agree ,should of been "Comparing Israelis to Nazis is unacceptable."nt King_David Dec 2012 #76

Seriously comparing any group to the Nazis is unacceptable. ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #65

Holocaust inversion. Sick... shira Dec 2012 #69

Quite a handful of interesting accusations... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #71

Answers... shira Dec 2012 #72

Okay then. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #74

Apparently not oberliner Dec 2012 #73

The Israelis compare the Palestinians to Nazis shaayecanaan Dec 2012 #75

See #17 above. n/t shira Dec 2012 #77

Quite breathtaking hypocrisy, isn't it? shaayecanaan Dec 2012 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author shira Dec 2012 #123

actually that part the of site is not gone it simply is not availible for viewing by non-members azurnoir Dec 2012 #132

'I despair for the human race' King_David Dec 2012 #144

They do it too!! They do it too!! oberliner Dec 2012 #79

You don't actually know the Niemoller quote, do you? intaglio Dec 2012 #78

You are wrong oberliner Dec 2012 #85

That's a lie intaglio Dec 2012 #111

No it's not oberliner Dec 2012 #114

So get this "Historian" to correct the Neimoller foundation intaglio Dec 2012 #116

Actually it's you who's clueless here.. King_David Dec 2012 #96

The Martin-Niemoller foundation says you are deceived intaglio Dec 2012 #112

Is the world you live in nice? holdencaufield Dec 2012 #106

Many posts on this thread are more than a little disturbing oberliner Dec 2012 #107

I think that since the moderators ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #108

Better than yours, probably, But not nice intaglio Dec 2012 #113

Not very carefully, apparently oberliner Dec 2012 #115

So tell me why the Martin Neimoller Foundation intaglio Dec 2012 #117

I can't see anything but the article summary. Where's the cartoon itself? Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #128

Just google Leunig, Israel, and Cartoon... shira Dec 2012 #129

As I thought, more storm in a teacup stuff... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #135

Right. You don't get it. n/t shira Dec 2012 #145

I get it just fine n/t Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #147

He is far worse than I thought, King_David Dec 2012 #136

Typical Stormfront sanctimonious bigotry. n/t shira Dec 2012 #146

'Luenig and his cartoons aren't going to kill anyone,' King_David Dec 2012 #137

Then why get all outraged about an obscure cartoon rather than actual deaths? Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #139

I agree, King_David Dec 2012 #141

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #138

'If you aren't a Jew and you end up dead in this conflict.... You probably deserved it.' King_David Dec 2012 #143