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King_David

(14,851 posts)
1. Snips..
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:22 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/26/israel-arabs-not-apartheid?newsfeed=true

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The survey's picture is very different for the secular – who form the majority of Israel's Jews: 73% did not object to having Arabs in their children's school, and 68% would live in an apartment building alongside Arabs.

These are remarkably positive views in light of the effect of the Palestinian suicide bombings during the Second Intifada in driving many Israeli Jews to the right, plus the continuing threats to Israel's existence by Iran and Palestinian militants and their supporters in the world. The firing of rockets and mortars – more than 80 this week – at southern Israel from the Gaza Strip by Hamas and others adds to antipathy towards Palestinians. Rightwing leaders gain support by playing on Jewish fears.

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I know about apartheid. I was born in South Africa and spent 26 years as a journalist specialising in reporting apartheid; I have also written several books about it. I only left South Africa because my newspaper, the Rand Daily Mail, of which I was then deputy editor, was closed down by its commercial owners under pressure from the government. We paid the price for being the country's leading voice against apartheid.

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Whatever attitudes might be claimed for Israel's Jewish public the situation on the ground does not support accusations of apartheid

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Why do I dismiss the apartheid analogies so emphatically? Because I straddle both apartheid South Africa and Israel today and have knowledge of the good and the ill in both societies.
Snips.. King_David Nov 2012 #1
Sixty plus years of being on the sharp end of your neighbors hostility can do that. n/t aranthus Nov 2012 #2
"not an apartheid state" Try explaining that to the non-Jews who live in Israel. jody Nov 2012 #3
I think the author knows a thing or two about Apartheid King_David Nov 2012 #4
unlike Desmond Tutu huh? n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #14
The practice of apartheid by Israel is in the West Bank not Israel within the Green Line azurnoir Nov 2012 #5
It's not apartheid in the W.Bank either. shira Nov 2012 #6
how about Jordan and Syria dlwickham Nov 2012 #7
Them too. But no one dares call it apartheid for some reason. n/t shira Nov 2012 #8
and I wonder what that reason may be dlwickham Nov 2012 #11
well you can't be as totally thoughtless azurnoir Nov 2012 #18
no ideas dlwickham Nov 2012 #19
once again Jordan has given citizenship to literally millions of Palestinians azurnoir Nov 2012 #20
And denied citizenship to literally tens of thousands of Palestinians oberliner Nov 2012 #21
present evidence and we'll discuss it okay azurnoir Nov 2012 #22
Palestinians are almost 1/2 of Jordans citizenry azurnoir Nov 2012 #13
"Blood libel " wow I'm impressed pulling out the big guns are we now? azurnoir Nov 2012 #9
Yeah, that's what it is when folks pretend Israel just kills children... shira Nov 2012 #10
well if Lebanon is commiting "apartheid" against Palestinians then Israel is doing the same and wors azurnoir Nov 2012 #12
If Lebanon is committing apartheid? Why deny it? shira Nov 2012 #15
thousands of Palestinian Arabs live in Jewish settlements in the West Bank? azurnoir Nov 2012 #16
now lets try this again azurnoir Nov 2012 #17
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