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I think Bibi's more interested in what's happening up North. bemildred Nov 2012 #1
I agree and hope you are right. morningfog Nov 2012 #98
Right now, it's doesn't look like I'm right. bemildred Nov 2012 #105
Bibi's logic reminds me of the view of General Sherman towards Native Americans... Larkspur Nov 2012 #2
That quote also encapsulates Hama's attitude towards Jews very well. hack89 Nov 2012 #3
Israel has the 5th most powerful military in the world Larkspur Nov 2012 #6
Israel gave Gaza back to the Palestinians hack89 Nov 2012 #7
why are you conflating Gaza with the West Bank? azurnoir Nov 2012 #9
Because the conversation was about Hamas? And the OP is about Gaza? hack89 Nov 2012 #11
except I have been paying attention and it was this part of your comment being addressed azurnoir Nov 2012 #15
So you are arguing that Israel has to make a separate peace with each Palestinian faction? hack89 Nov 2012 #17
I am telling that at the present time Gaza and the West Bank are under 2 separate governments azurnoir Nov 2012 #18
The Palestinian are demonstrating why they are not ready to run a country hack89 Nov 2012 #21
ah okay so you are saying that Hamas controls the show azurnoir Nov 2012 #25
No - I am saying the Palestinians are hopelessly divided hack89 Nov 2012 #54
Israel refuses to speak with Hamas at least publically as does the US azurnoir Nov 2012 #55
I support an independent Palestinian state hack89 Nov 2012 #62
your comment about Zionism is bullshit. Mosby Nov 2012 #12
well of course because the Palestinians got imported from where China? azurnoir Nov 2012 #16
palestinian nationalism started about 100 years ago Mosby Nov 2012 #20
and Jewish nationalism (Zionism) started about 130 years ago azurnoir Nov 2012 #26
Until they stop with the King_David Nov 2012 #31
Do you shed tears for the 1.4M Israelis under attack from Hamas... shira Nov 2012 #32
yes, a few killers will kill many innocents larkrake Nov 2012 #78
Israel will engage in genocide? Umm....okay. n/t shira Nov 2012 #83
Riiiight. 160 rockets have fallen into Israel since Saturday... shira Nov 2012 #4
When non-violent Palestinians are treated the same as terrorists Larkspur Nov 2012 #5
You mean 1.4 million Israelis are reaping rockets in return... shira Nov 2012 #22
Yes, most Israelis support the oppression of Palestinians, so they are Larkspur Nov 2012 #69
So the civilians of Gaza will collectively reap what Hamas is sowing? King_David Nov 2012 #75
No. Collective punishment vs. Israelis = good. Against Palestinians = bad. n/t shira Nov 2012 #84
Israel makes the argument for collective punishment every day. For every Israeli killed Larkspur Nov 2012 #91
Hamas is fighting against the occupation . King_David Nov 2012 #94
Israel once would not talk with the PLO, but it eventually did Larkspur Nov 2012 #124
Hamas wants Israel... sans Jews King_David Nov 2012 #125
Hamas, like the PLO before the, have also indicated that they would recognize Israel if a fair and Larkspur Nov 2012 #126
Hamas has indicated it would " Recognize Israel " King_David Nov 2012 #127
so Israel has done nothing in retailiation? no bombing no Palestinians killed nothing? azurnoir Nov 2012 #8
Obviously, the tit-for-tat isn't effective... shira Nov 2012 #23
"crap out of Hamas: or kick the crap out of Gaza azurnoir Nov 2012 #27
So you'd say 1.4M Israelis should just grin & bear it? n/t shira Nov 2012 #29
is that what they're doing now? isn't IDF proitecting them? n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #33
How can the IDF protect from all Hamas' rockets? n/t shira Nov 2012 #35
and invading will accomplish that -how? it didn't last time azurnoir Nov 2012 #52
So what should Israel do? Lie down, take it? n/t shira Nov 2012 #60
haaretz is getting wierd Mosby Nov 2012 #10
The better question is 'does anyone take israel seriously...anymore'? oem Purveyor Nov 2012 #14
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Yes Obama and The Democratic party, King_David Nov 2012 #39
They have long been at war. It is silly when we all act morningfog Nov 2012 #99
Are you equating Israel's response to rockets with the rockets themselves? shira Nov 2012 #102
I am asking if you know the numbers of rockets, morningfog Nov 2012 #103
I believe it's vile to compare Hamas' aggression vs. Israel's defense. shira Nov 2012 #104
Vile? Innocent people are dying on both sides. I think it is a perfectly fair morningfog Nov 2012 #114
Yes, vile. By equating Hamas to the IDF, you're sanitizing Hamas' attempts... shira Nov 2012 #115
The IDF does not have clean hands. Not anywhere near it. morningfog Nov 2012 #118
According to UN records, Israel is best with civilians in combat... shira Nov 2012 #119
I am glad that Israel, statistically, has a better kill ratio thatn NATO an others. morningfog Nov 2012 #120
I don't buy the proportionality argument... shira Nov 2012 #121
Dodge, dodge, dodge. It isn't proportionality we are talking about. morningfog Nov 2012 #122
Hamas it seems is praying too King_David Nov 2012 #38
Sounds like Bibi just wants to kill him some Muslims before the election. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #13
160 rockets putting 1.4 million Israelis into bunkers the past 3 days.... shira Nov 2012 #24
and the 1.6 million Gazan who do not have bunkers because Israel will not allow the building materia azurnoir Nov 2012 #28
1.6M Gazans are not Israel's targets, are they? shira Nov 2012 #30
so you are claiming that IDF will only be killing Hamas azurnoir Nov 2012 #34
So no sympathy for 1.4M Israelis being targeted... shira Nov 2012 #37
so Palestinian civilians are human sheilds because they live in Gaza got it azurnoir Nov 2012 #41
No outrage at Hamas for human shields? Got it. n/t shira Nov 2012 #59
You don't have to support an Israeli attack on Gaza Ken Burch Nov 2012 #46
so what should Israel do? n/t shira Nov 2012 #57
There was no good reason to deny Gazan civilians safe places to hide Ken Burch Nov 2012 #45
There's no good reason to run interference for Hamas shira Nov 2012 #58
I'm not running interference for Hamas. I'm speaking out for the people of Gaza Ken Burch Nov 2012 #67
Some people here on DU think Israeli citizens shouldn't have to suffer for what Bibi does. King_David Nov 2012 #80
But you never call out Hamas for using human shields... shira Nov 2012 #85
So maybe then Israel should just lie back King_David Nov 2012 #36
So what to do about the rockets? King_David Nov 2012 #40
why do you replace Israelis with Jews? azurnoir Nov 2012 #42
The Majority of that State are Jews...Israel is The Jewish State, King_David Nov 2012 #43
by that reasoning America and Canada are the White or European or Caucasian states azurnoir Nov 2012 #44
So there is no Jewish State? King_David Nov 2012 #48
yes as the POTUS Israel there is that azurnoir Nov 2012 #50
The Jewish State is a reality, deny it all you want,it makes no difference to us, King_David Nov 2012 #51
yes Israel is a reality the Jewish Stae is a meme an ideal of what some want Israel to be azurnoir Nov 2012 #53
it makes no difference to us... R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #71
'We all have your number' King_David Nov 2012 #72
I'm sure we all understand that you understand. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #73
Ok whatever... King_David Nov 2012 #74
Have you friended Shaktimaan yet? Talk about juvenile. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #77
If you're really interested in apartheid and not indifferent to it vs. Palestinians.... shira Nov 2012 #86
If you're really interested in apartheid and not indifferent to Israeli usage of it R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #92
And that goes to show you really aren't interested in talking apartheid. shira Nov 2012 #95
And that goes to show you really aren't interested in talking Israeli apartheid. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #97
I thought you wanted to talk apartheid vs. Palestinians. Guess not. n/t shira Nov 2012 #101
Keep on blowing that smoke up our arse. You're really good at it. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #106
You asked how many Palestinians live in settlements... shira Nov 2012 #107
Did you even bother to read the article???? Are you fu*king kidding me? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #111
No, not the OP. See post #81 in that same thread... shira Nov 2012 #113
Yes, Apartheid. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #123
Everyone's an "Amateur " to you.. King_David Nov 2012 #108
No. Not true, King D. Not even close. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #109
"Amateur , Apartheid Apartheid epic fails King_David Nov 2012 #110
Yes, you must grow up. Exactly! I'm glad you have caught on. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #112
24%. King D likes to play up the 76% and ignore the rest. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #70
Because you have my number? King_David Nov 2012 #76
Why do you ignore 24% of the Israeli population that are non Jewish? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #81
Your bizzare questions are the same as asking you :'When did you stop beating your kids?' ? King_David Nov 2012 #82
I can see how you are indifferent to the plight of the Palestinians since you can't even acknowledge R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #93
The Israelis(this has nothing to do with "Jews" and you know it)have an obligation Ken Burch Nov 2012 #47
Nonsense ,The Jewish State aka Israel, King_David Nov 2012 #49
well I hate to dash your hopes for a stern defense of Israel but azurnoir Nov 2012 #65
Not again with malicious charges of targeting civilians.... shira Nov 2012 #61
Oh heavens forfend we all just know the onlyest ones that target civilians are Palestinians azurnoir Nov 2012 #64
Hamas shouldn't fire rockets. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #68
If Bibi wants to do it, the world can't stop him. He should leave it at that. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #56
What is it he wants to do against Arabs and Muslims? King_David Nov 2012 #63
What Bibi feels doesn't extend to 12 million other people Ken Burch Nov 2012 #66
Well said. morningfog Nov 2012 #100
One more time. Israel does not want peace. PDJane Nov 2012 #79
So Israel's peace offers in 2000 and 2008 were really declarations of war? shira Nov 2012 #87
Yeah, really. PDJane Nov 2012 #88
LOL. shira Nov 2012 #89
I do know. Don't assume the audience is ignorant just because they disagree. PDJane Nov 2012 #90
So people backing the Geneva Initiative don't want peace either. shira Nov 2012 #96
um shira do we really have to go over this again? let's look at the facts behind Olmerts offer azurnoir Nov 2012 #116
see #116 n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #117
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