Israel/Palestine

Shaktimaan

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47. not necessarily.

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:43 AM

Sep 2012

I am not making any grand statements. I am just trying to confirm that the level of discrimination currently being experienced by secular Jews in Israel meets the criteria of actually qualifying as apartheid.

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For Palestinian Kids in Hebron, Little Joy on Back-to-School Day [View all] Purveyor Sep 2012 OP

How did he EVER ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #1

And here I thought the first comment would be about 'backpack bomb' the kid could be potentially Purveyor Sep 2012 #2

I don't know where the author went to school ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #3

so terrible for these kids that they can not simply go to school without being attacked azurnoir Sep 2012 #4

The word Apartheid is a little overused now days. King_David Sep 2012 #5

well I guess some overuse it azurnoir Sep 2012 #6

Apartheid was a unique evil to South Africa King_David Sep 2012 #7

apartheid is a word that over time has grown in meaning at least for most progressives azurnoir Sep 2012 #8

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #9

in that case... Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #12

the difference would be laws that differ for groups living under the same jurisdiction depending on azurnoir Sep 2012 #13

I don't understand. Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #14

there is a difference between simple discrimination and that which is enshrined in law azurnoir Sep 2012 #15

Generally speaking... Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #16

well thank you you have certainly done a job at attempting to water down apartheid azurnoir Sep 2012 #17

That's kinda the point. Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #18

well except you did the warping and the original term does fit Israels treatment of Palestinians azurnoir Sep 2012 #19

I merely used your definition. Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #20

No you did not you made your own defination claimed it was mine and ran with it azurnoir Sep 2012 #21

so then... Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #22

ah but I never said that apartheid referred soley to Israels actions as you claim azurnoir Sep 2012 #23

Hahaha. Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #24

nice try but the UN is applying its rules for membership in the UNSC equally azurnoir Sep 2012 #25

Seriously? Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #26

you seem so confused or is it an attempt to obfuscate ? azurnoir Sep 2012 #27

Let's start with... Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #28

If you can not comprehend that the West Bank is outside of Israels borders azurnoir Sep 2012 #30

You lost me. Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #32

the West Bank may "under Israeli sovereignty " but it is not sovereign Israel azurnoir Sep 2012 #35

So what? Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #39

first off go back and look at comments #13 and #15 where I defined apartheid for you azurnoir Sep 2012 #41

It seems like... Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #46

Are you trying to insinuate... Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #29

special rights that is an interesting way of putting it azurnoir Sep 2012 #31

You are missing the point. Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #33

you seem to feel that being excluded from manditory IDF service is positive azurnoir Sep 2012 #34

You don't know Israeli Arabs can choose to serve in the IDF? n/t shira Sep 2012 #36

yes I do as this thread which BTW you posted on shows azurnoir Sep 2012 #38

But not everyone has that choice. Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #37

however seeing as how there are benefits denied to at least nonJews who do not serve azurnoir Sep 2012 #40

why are the claims null? Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #42

why is this mnot apartheid azurnoir Sep 2012 #43

No... Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #44

so the Jewisn state is antiJewish, have I got that right? azurnoir Sep 2012 #45

not necessarily. Shaktimaan Sep 2012 #47

Fascinating that your post #9 was hidden oberliner Sep 2012 #10

I'd love to see the reasoning behind that one. n/t shira Sep 2012 #11