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Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:46 PM

oberliner (22,122 posts)

9. This is a completely false statment

Maybe consider the source?

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"Pro-Palestinians" don't seem to be "pro-anyone" [View all]	shira	Sep 2012	OP
Why is the West Bank refered to as	R. Daneel Olivaw	Sep 2012	#1
well because Israeli Jews who are so inclined prefer the West Bank be called by its bibilical name	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#2
Is there another name for "Israeli Jews who are so inclined to prefer the West Bank"	R. Daneel Olivaw	Sep 2012	#3
as I just stated Judea and Samaria is the prefered name by some at least	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#4
Paperz please!	R. Daneel Olivaw	Sep 2012	#5
the name would be settlers n/t	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#12
That is probably not the name that the Palestinians would give to them.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Sep 2012	#19
The Palestinian leadership believes all Israel is a settlement...	shira	Sep 2012	#23
ya and that's why they asked for all of Palestine er Israel at the UN huh? oh wait........n/t	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#25
That's what they say they want in English. Not so much in Arabic. n/t	shira	Sep 2012	#52
I'm more interested in your opinion. Do you believe that the "so called settlers"	R. Daneel Olivaw	Sep 2012	#70
They'd probably also say "colonialists".	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#26
This is a completely false statment	oberliner	Sep 2012	#9
as I said by some that means not all please reread n/t	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#11
But why? And who are these people?	aranthus	Sep 2012	#6
Why do you think? Any guesses? n/t	shira	Sep 2012	#15
Several.	aranthus	Sep 2012	#17
Nobody on the left hates Israel for being "Jewish"	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#27
I'm sure you believe that, but it simply isn't true.	aranthus	Sep 2012	#31
Actually, I don't champion a "single world state".	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#32
do you ever live in a fantasy/religious world...	pelsar	Sep 2012	#33
I'm not going to apologize for having hopes for a better world.	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#35
the core of your philosophy....is the video	pelsar	Sep 2012	#41
I've noticed that you call me intolerant every time I say something YOU disagree with.	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#43
the intolerance is that they must agree to your basic beliefs....	pelsar	Sep 2012	#48
It works here.	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#50
you miss the whole point....	pelsar	Sep 2012	#60
I'm not intolerant at all...you just say that because you think it makes me look bad...	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#54
tolerent?	pelsar	Sep 2012	#61
First, they aren't "My" views, they're simply views I share. I didn't invent them	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#73
ken...you dont "hurt my feelings...nor do i feel insulted by you....	pelsar	Sep 2012	#76
But Pelsar, you said you believe working Western values into Gaza...	shira	Dec 2012	#97
But you are against "nation-states"	aranthus	Sep 2012	#63
"The section of the Left that I'm talking about is pretty obviously antisemitic."	R. Daneel Olivaw	Sep 2012	#72
Walt and Mearsheimer	aranthus	Sep 2012	#85
That's it? Who are these people? Are they on the left, and if so	R. Daneel Olivaw	Sep 2012	#86
Because I have work to do.	aranthus	Sep 2012	#88
Thanks. You have presented a handful of stale nothing.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Sep 2012	#91
Denial.	aranthus	Sep 2012	#94
Why do you hate the Kurds?	Recursion	Dec 2012	#99
If the Left really hated Jews....	shira	Sep 2012	#58
They don't say that Judaism is simply a faith	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#59
Look up the definition of a nation. Israel fits the bill...	shira	Sep 2012	#65
"denunciated"? should they be refudiated as well?	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#71
They don't side with Hamas? They just realize they must work with them?	shira	Sep 2012	#82
why do we not 'see'?	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#7
Good question. Do you have an answer?	shira	Sep 2012	#13
look around but you'll have to step outside of your usual Hudson Institute	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#18
look around where? show "us", please. "we" still don't see these things. n/t	shira	Sep 2012	#20
then 'we' aren't looking too hard are 'we'	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#21
maybe there's nothing for "us" to find...	shira	Sep 2012	#22
and as I stated maybe you aren't looking too hard	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#24
How do those articles address what "we" are seeing...	shira	Sep 2012	#53
It must be frustrating what those articles show is that Palestinians are working on those problems	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#64
You must not have read the OP very carefully....	shira	Sep 2012	#66
so despite the fact that Palestinians are aware and working to solve these problems	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#67
Please show that the ISM, FGM, PSC, BDS, Mondoweiss, and EI folks...	shira	Sep 2012	#69
once again Palestinians are taking care of it themselves but yet groups must continue to condemn	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#75
The OP is about pro-Palestinians like the Mondoweiss and EI crowd...	shira	Sep 2012	#83
I pointed out that the very things the article is caterwauling about are actually already being	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#84
You're changing the goalposts. The article isn't slamming Palestinians....	shira	Sep 2012	#93
"I'm rubber you're glue!"	Scootaloo	Sep 2012	#8
So who is qualified to make this complaint? n/t	shira	Sep 2012	#14
Well, it's not you. n/t	Scootaloo	Sep 2012	#36
So who? n/t	shira	Sep 2012	#55
Liberal feminists supporting Hamas is quite bizarre	oberliner	Sep 2012	#10
So too are Gays and Jews who support Hamas....	shira	Sep 2012	#16
Liberal feminists do not support Hamas.	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#28
You are wrong	oberliner	Sep 2012	#29
meeting with Hamas doesn't equate to SUPPORT of Hamas	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#30
strengthening hamas is supporting them	pelsar	Sep 2012	#34
What would you prefer?	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#37
there are other alternatives....	pelsar	Sep 2012	#39
No. I study history. And I study reality.	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#40
well your wrong...	pelsar	Sep 2012	#42
The other options are either	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#44
but but but you claimed you read history	pelsar	Sep 2012	#49
fascism, not "facism"-and why are you bringing Stalin into this?	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#51
not so fast..	pelsar	Sep 2012	#62
societies changed for a variety of reasons	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#74
didnt i mention research?	pelsar	Sep 2012	#77
I would interfere with leaders like Hitler, Mussolini and Franco.	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#78
now you confused me.....	pelsar	Sep 2012	#79
It doesn't work when it interfaces with memories of the colonial past.	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#80
still confused	pelsar	Sep 2012	#81
They CAN change...but they need to be the ones starting the change.	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#90
research...the key to new ideas but only for the non religious	pelsar	Sep 2012	#92
My God...My God...are you calling for U.S./NATO ATTACKS ON GAZA? That's insane!	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#95
your funny....your so wrapped up in your dogma..	pelsar	Sep 2012	#96
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Scootaloo	Sep 2012	#38
Yes it does	oberliner	Sep 2012	#45
The U.S. and Israel refused to meet with the PLO for decades...the PLO didn't go away.	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#47
Code Pink does not represent a government	oberliner	Sep 2012	#56
Ken, you were wrong. Feminists like Medea Benjamin support Hamas. EOM.	shira	Sep 2012	#57
Makes some good points, but too much of a broadbrush	LeftishBrit	Sep 2012	#46
The OP is about the pro-Palestinian movement....	shira	Sep 2012	#68
Prove it. Name them.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Sep 2012	#87
When “pro-Palestinian” means anti-Israel	shira	Sep 2012	#89
Nope. Nice try though.	Recursion	Dec 2012	#98

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