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In reply to the discussion: Why Israel Should Withdraw From the West Bank—Now [View all]shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)81. You don't seem to favour any facts at all...
PS - I just responded directly to your points. If you're not going to respond directly to the points I just made then don't bother.
Actually, you didn't. You just mouthed the same old clichés that you always do. For instance, you said that the occupation (including the settlements, presumably) was purely a defensive endeavour. I responded that the only conclusion to draw from that is that the settlements are de facto military outposts of the Israeli state and that the little kiddies running around Hebron throwing rocks at Arabs are Israel's front line defence.
The alternative, of course, is that the settlements are not defence installations but are simply an exercise in the theft of Palestinian land. Take your pick. Or not, as I expect you will simply go on mouthing clichés.
And I guess Israel would then send troops and settlers to occupy Jordan or Egypt that haven't attacked Israel since 1967 anyway.
If they did that they would get attacked. The Israelis only left the Sinai after Egypt gave them a scare in 1973. They only left South Lebanon after they got sick of the Hezb killing them. And they only left Gaza once Hamas started shelling the settlements with their rockets.
The fact is the Palestinians are the aggressors and have always had the power to stop the oppression simply by stopping the aggression.
Absolute nonsense. Just about every video posted on this board over the past year or so has consisted of Israeli settlers or soldiers beating up or shooting Arabs.
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He's the "managing editor of Foreign Affairs", I wouldn't dismiss anything he says out of hand. nt
bemildred
Aug 2012
#2
You don't see violence from Palestinians in the WB b/c you choose not to see it...
shira
Aug 2012
#86
Do many home invasions and intended robberies involve decapitating a three-month old baby?
oberliner
Aug 2012
#91
I am under no delusions-IMO Israel has no intention of giving up one sq cm. of the West Bank
azurnoir
Aug 2012
#35
Not much of a peace initiative when it calls for 100% withdrawal from the WB and full...
shira
Aug 2012
#85
Do you think moving half-a-milllion Jews into the midst of a couple million hostile Arabs,
bemildred
Aug 2012
#45
Azurnoir, are you saying Israel can't offer the Clinton Initiatives or Olmert's offer anymore? n/t
shira
Aug 2012
#54
Please stop moving the goalposts. You keep claiming that with settlement expansion....
shira
Aug 2012
#61
lol except that these fabled desalination plants do not yet quite exist do they?
azurnoir
Aug 2012
#78