In the discussion thread: Israel's Spending on Illegal Settlements Hits Two-Decade High of NIS 1.1 Billion [View all]
Response to holdencaufield (Reply #18)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 07:07 PM
Ken Burch (32,746 posts)
21. It wouldn't play out that way
Those settlements, if they were to remain settlements, would be claimed as Israeli territory. Those who lived within them would insist on Israeli citizenship. They aren't there just to live as equals with Palestinians. They're there to claim the land.
And, despite your demagogic insinuation, the issue is settlers, not "Jews". It's not about antisemitism. It would have been(and would still be)legitimate to ask that the pre-1948 Jewish population of the West Bank(or at least some of their descendants) be allowed to return, because THEY have a real connection to the land. But the settlers were mainly drawn from outside the West Bank(a lot of them are American)and came in acting like it was all THEIR land and that the Palestinians were and are nothing. People who came in with that mindset are NOT going to say "ok, we'll just be Palestinian citizens and leave it at that". They are going to fight to keep the settlements Israeli, and a large chunk of the IDF will back them(a lot of active-duty IDF personnel ARE settlers, which is a deeply disturbing situation if you accept the claim that the IDF are simply in the Territories to preserve order and prevent loss of life, a stance that SHOULD obligate the IDF to be neutral between Palestinians and settlers when those sides clash directly).
And the right of return issue you cite is spurious compared to the question of Palestinian RoR. The Palestinians who'd been forced out in 1948 had a real connection to the land. The settlers who were shipped in after 1973 or so don't.
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