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shira

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71. Guardian article blames Jews for killing Mer-Khanis in Jenin....

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Wed Jul 11, 2012, 08:17 PM

Jul 2012

http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2012/jun/12/stand-up-for-west-banks-freedom-theatre?INTCMP=SRCH

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Is the Guardian the most bigoted newspaper in Britain? [View all] shira Jun 2012 OP

The Guardian reaches a new low shira Jun 2012 #1

Did you read the actual article Posted in the Guardian.. cyclezealot Jun 2012 #2

So presumably, the Guardian can publish Nick Griffin and David Duke's views as well... shira Jun 2012 #4

so shira how do you feel about the Torat HaMelech being published azurnoir Jun 2012 #9

Where was it published in english? n/t shira Jun 2012 #13

Google The Kings Torah it will come up, and I invite anyone doubting this to do it n/t azurnoir Jun 2012 #16

I see a lot of articles rightly criticizing the text. So? n/t shira Jun 2012 #18

I just Googled it again it's the 5th one down from the top and 4th depending on what browser azurnoir Jun 2012 #22

I wish you'd get to the point, if you really have one. Just provide the website. n/t shira Jun 2012 #24

I asked you a question that you have danced around for 3 hours rather than just answer azurnoir Jun 2012 #28

I can't read your mind. But what does that being on a hate site have to do with anything? n/t shira Jun 2012 #30

what becomes apparent is that you wish to deflect from question about the Kings Torah azurnoir Jun 2012 #56

I don't see the connection. Those views in the KT are odious and vile... shira Jun 2012 #62

I asked you a question in comment #9, which you have deflected for quite a number off posts now azurnoir Jun 2012 #63

Sorry I didn't answer that earlier... shira Jun 2012 #64

as I do not read Hebrew I can't really say perhaps there are azurnoir Jun 2012 #65

Assuming the author of the objectionable article is a horrible person in nearly all ways, snot Jun 2012 #3

So you'd be okay with the Guardian publishing Nick Griffin, David Duke...? n/t shira Jun 2012 #5

Bigotry? intaglio Jun 2012 #6

You'd have no problem with the Guardian mainstreaming Nick Griffin, David Duke...? shira Jun 2012 #7

The answer to your question is of course intaglio Jun 2012 #11

Huh? "Right wing bigots do not work w/ the Guardian, b/c it is liberal"? shira Jun 2012 #12

What is your definition of bigoted? intaglio Jun 2012 #20

In the OP, look at the parts from the Hamas charter and see if you can find... shira Jun 2012 #26

You are describing the author NOT the newspaper intaglio Jun 2012 #36

It's the newspaper. Clear antizionist view. Happy to do propaganda for Hamas. n/t shira Jun 2012 #58

Just so I'm clear on this... Shaktimaan Jun 2012 #70

You are wrong. Apart from Haniyeh, some local RW bigots have blogged in the CiF section LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #35

It is better, and more left wing than virtually any American or Israeli Newspaper intaglio Jun 2012 #37

At least you can admit the Guardian is "hateful to Zionists". n/t shira Jun 2012 #41

As in "hated by Zionists" yes n/t intaglio Jun 2012 #46

You like it b/c it tilts heavily anti-zionist, right? n/t shira Jun 2012 #47

No, I like it because it is a liberal publication intaglio Jun 2012 #51

It's not a liberal publication. It's radically and reactionary far leftwing. n/t shira Jun 2012 #59

That you can describe the Guardian as 'radically far leftwing', indicates to me that you haven't LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #75

Support for Ismael Haniyeh and Raed Saleh isn't liberal. It's Stalinist far leftwingery.... shira Jul 2012 #77

The Guardian as a whole does not support these individuals... LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #80

I don't give a dam' who they publish; I just care whether it's true and reasonable. snot Jun 2012 #66

They're publishing terrorists who explicitly call for the killing of Jews... shira Jun 2012 #67

the nerve why how dare they actually publish a piece by the leader of Hamas azurnoir Jun 2012 #8

how dare they not publish Nick Griffin for balance, or any of the most far rightwing... shira Jun 2012 #10

actually I would have no problem with that, all sides of a question should be heard azurnoir Jun 2012 #17

In a right-to-reply debate style format that's fine. Otherwise it's sick propaganda. shira Jun 2012 #19

"Where's the other side WRT Haniyeh?" well here's a few from The Guardian azurnoir Jun 2012 #23

Those articles have nothing to do with Haniyeh's recent piece... shira Jun 2012 #25

Well your challanging it aren't you? however does JPost challange piece written by Caroline Glick azurnoir Jun 2012 #29

Nick Griffin WAS given a platform to speak at the Oxford Union LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #33

So let's see Griffin & his racist POV becoming commonplace within the pages of the Guardian and CiF shira Jun 2012 #44

Well, it's already commonplace in most of the tabloids! LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #55

They endorse or are indifferent to Griffin's views. Same WRT the Graun & Hamas. n/t shira Jun 2012 #57

What's the problem? He just wants to end Israel. How is that bad? aranthus Jun 2012 #14

He's a good liberal mensch. Anti-occupation, pro-peace... shira Jun 2012 #15

This is not an endorsement of Haniyeh LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #34

If you agree the Guardian is heavily tilted anti-zionist.... shira Jun 2012 #42

I understand that. aranthus Jun 2012 #49

Well put. Here's Haniyeh on video just 6 months ago with his real views... shira Jun 2012 #50

But not bigoted enough for Shira to resist quoting the Guardian when it suits her!.......n/t. kayecy Jun 2012 #21

I quote it knowing that extreme anti-zios like yrself find it credible and antiracist. shira Jun 2012 #27

Freedom of speech is very precious................... kayecy Jun 2012 #31

So no-one, not even the Jewish, can say anything bad about Israel? intaglio Jun 2012 #38

"The Zionists currently in occupation of Israel's Government" oberliner Jun 2012 #39

You mean like Israel has no right to exist and should be destroyed? The Guardian and CiF... shira Jun 2012 #43

So they are not bigoted intaglio Jun 2012 #45

Of course they are shira Jun 2012 #48

How can Hamas be anti-Semitic? intaglio Jun 2012 #52

'Antisemitic' is a term invented by Europaean antisemites to mean anti-Jewish LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #53

Genocidally antisemitic. Go about 6-8 videos down and you'll find where I start citing Hamas.... shira Jun 2012 #60

No; the Daily Mail, Daily Express and the Sun are much worse. LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #32

LB, do you agree that the Guardian is generally anti-zionist in its reporting? Not just... shira Jun 2012 #40

No, not generally (yes, sometimes). I agree that the bloggers on CiF include a disproportionate LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #54

Yes, to their credit they also publish Nick Cohen a lot... shira Jun 2012 #61

Hamas are indeed evil right-wingers LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #72

The Guardian is the mirror image of those hard rightwing publications that incite against minorities shira Jul 2012 #73

Even if that were true, the Sun has a daily circulation of 2 1/2 million, and the Daily Mail LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #74

Islamism, and the Guardian left’s moral complicity with explicit antisemitism shira Jun 2012 #68

Der Sturmer in the UK? shira Jun 2012 #69

Guardian article blames Jews for killing Mer-Khanis in Jenin.... shira Jul 2012 #71

No its not dipsydoodle Jul 2012 #76

Current leader of Hamas has explicitly stated their charter is historical, not operative now Cicada Jul 2012 #78

Tunisians greet Hamas leader with chants of “Kill the Jews!” shira Jul 2012 #79

Guardian’s Jewish problem: Paper praises extreme antisemitic site CounterPunch as ‘progressive’ shira Jul 2012 #81

You realize that by calling such stalwarts of Progressive and Leftist ideological elites antisemitic aranthus Jul 2012 #82

Do you think the CounterPunch radicals are ideological elites within the Progressive Left? n/t shira Jul 2012 #83

Not necessarily, but I would say that about the Guardian. aranthus Jul 2012 #84

the key is in the repackaging of terms liberal, progressive, leftist azurnoir Jul 2012 #85

So what do you personally make of CounterPunch and the Guardian? Do they generally represent.... shira Jul 2012 #86

sometimes CounterPunch does and sometimes it does not azurnoir Jul 2012 #88

So who or what organizations best represent Progressive ideology in your opinion? n/t shira Jul 2012 #90

well for starters B'tselem, Gush Shalom, Jewish Voices for Peace azurnoir Jul 2012 #93

JVP is for BDS. In fact, what sets them apart from Miles of Smiles.... shira Jul 2012 #111

What rubbish !! King_David Jul 2012 #87

Do you consider yourself progressive, liberal, or both? n/t shira Jul 2012 #89

Both King_David Jul 2012 #91

As perhaps a poster who supports the notion of keeping a brutal and illegal war/military occupation azurnoir Jul 2012 #92

You have made it abundantly clear King_David Jul 2012 #94

oh so you think a conservative would welcome my support of Gay Marriage ? azurnoir Jul 2012 #95

I am proud of the post you somehow think shames King_David Jul 2012 #96

yes you seem to be proud of wishing to continue a war that has resulted in countless deaths azurnoir Jul 2012 #97

Please feel free to repost , King_David Jul 2012 #98

it isyour statement and you are the one claiming support azurnoir Jul 2012 #99

I am proud of my post King_David Jul 2012 #101

ok I am going to put it another way azurnoir Jul 2012 #102

a caveat though I am talking about your support for the continueing the Iraq war azurnoir Jul 2012 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #103

No, it isn't. LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #103

So if CounterPunch isn't Leftwing at all in your view, why is the Guardian praising it? shira Jul 2012 #105

Because Cockburn just died, eliciting piety; and because the Guardian isn't consistently left wing LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #106

something else IMO as or more disturbing azurnoir Jul 2012 #107

I would have thought that it was the other way around. aranthus Jul 2012 #108

Maybe the confusion lies with people who conflate criticism of Hamas or the PLO with.... shira Jul 2012 #110

The Guardian isn't 'consistently' left-wing? How can they be considered left-wing at all... shira Jul 2012 #109

BBC’s Disgusting Response to Olympic Complaints shira Jul 2012 #112

The Guardian’s Seumas Milne defends Palestinians’ right to kill Israelis shira Nov 2012 #113

Seumas Milne says Hamas has right to resist (see video starting ~ 1:20) shira Nov 2012 #114

Chris McGreal: Why any Israeli can be murdered via terrorism shira Nov 2012 #115