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intaglio

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20. What is your definition of bigoted?
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 04:07 PM
Jun 2012

Because it is not one that is in the dictionary.

By your own account The Guardian publishes articles involving right wingers and, even you will admit, it publishes articles favouring, socialism and anti-monarchism. It has articles by people identifying as Jews and now by someone identifying as Palestinian. So how is it bigoted? Come on, tell us, what is your definition; write it out; give us the benefit of your wisdom.

Actually you are just being an echo chamber for Zionist extremists - so you will admit nothing.

The Guardian reaches a new low shira Jun 2012 #1
Did you read the actual article Posted in the Guardian.. cyclezealot Jun 2012 #2
So presumably, the Guardian can publish Nick Griffin and David Duke's views as well... shira Jun 2012 #4
so shira how do you feel about the Torat HaMelech being published azurnoir Jun 2012 #9
Where was it published in english? n/t shira Jun 2012 #13
Google The Kings Torah it will come up, and I invite anyone doubting this to do it n/t azurnoir Jun 2012 #16
I see a lot of articles rightly criticizing the text. So? n/t shira Jun 2012 #18
I just Googled it again it's the 5th one down from the top and 4th depending on what browser azurnoir Jun 2012 #22
I wish you'd get to the point, if you really have one. Just provide the website. n/t shira Jun 2012 #24
I asked you a question that you have danced around for 3 hours rather than just answer azurnoir Jun 2012 #28
I can't read your mind. But what does that being on a hate site have to do with anything? n/t shira Jun 2012 #30
what becomes apparent is that you wish to deflect from question about the Kings Torah azurnoir Jun 2012 #56
I don't see the connection. Those views in the KT are odious and vile... shira Jun 2012 #62
I asked you a question in comment #9, which you have deflected for quite a number off posts now azurnoir Jun 2012 #63
Sorry I didn't answer that earlier... shira Jun 2012 #64
as I do not read Hebrew I can't really say perhaps there are azurnoir Jun 2012 #65
Assuming the author of the objectionable article is a horrible person in nearly all ways, snot Jun 2012 #3
So you'd be okay with the Guardian publishing Nick Griffin, David Duke...? n/t shira Jun 2012 #5
Bigotry? intaglio Jun 2012 #6
You'd have no problem with the Guardian mainstreaming Nick Griffin, David Duke...? shira Jun 2012 #7
The answer to your question is of course intaglio Jun 2012 #11
Huh? "Right wing bigots do not work w/ the Guardian, b/c it is liberal"? shira Jun 2012 #12
What is your definition of bigoted? intaglio Jun 2012 #20
In the OP, look at the parts from the Hamas charter and see if you can find... shira Jun 2012 #26
You are describing the author NOT the newspaper intaglio Jun 2012 #36
It's the newspaper. Clear antizionist view. Happy to do propaganda for Hamas. n/t shira Jun 2012 #58
Just so I'm clear on this... Shaktimaan Jun 2012 #70
You are wrong. Apart from Haniyeh, some local RW bigots have blogged in the CiF section LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #35
It is better, and more left wing than virtually any American or Israeli Newspaper intaglio Jun 2012 #37
At least you can admit the Guardian is "hateful to Zionists". n/t shira Jun 2012 #41
As in "hated by Zionists" yes n/t intaglio Jun 2012 #46
You like it b/c it tilts heavily anti-zionist, right? n/t shira Jun 2012 #47
No, I like it because it is a liberal publication intaglio Jun 2012 #51
It's not a liberal publication. It's radically and reactionary far leftwing. n/t shira Jun 2012 #59
That you can describe the Guardian as 'radically far leftwing', indicates to me that you haven't LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #75
Support for Ismael Haniyeh and Raed Saleh isn't liberal. It's Stalinist far leftwingery.... shira Jul 2012 #77
The Guardian as a whole does not support these individuals... LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #80
I don't give a dam' who they publish; I just care whether it's true and reasonable. snot Jun 2012 #66
They're publishing terrorists who explicitly call for the killing of Jews... shira Jun 2012 #67
the nerve why how dare they actually publish a piece by the leader of Hamas azurnoir Jun 2012 #8
how dare they not publish Nick Griffin for balance, or any of the most far rightwing... shira Jun 2012 #10
actually I would have no problem with that, all sides of a question should be heard azurnoir Jun 2012 #17
In a right-to-reply debate style format that's fine. Otherwise it's sick propaganda. shira Jun 2012 #19
"Where's the other side WRT Haniyeh?" well here's a few from The Guardian azurnoir Jun 2012 #23
Those articles have nothing to do with Haniyeh's recent piece... shira Jun 2012 #25
Well your challanging it aren't you? however does JPost challange piece written by Caroline Glick azurnoir Jun 2012 #29
Nick Griffin WAS given a platform to speak at the Oxford Union LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #33
So let's see Griffin & his racist POV becoming commonplace within the pages of the Guardian and CiF shira Jun 2012 #44
Well, it's already commonplace in most of the tabloids! LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #55
They endorse or are indifferent to Griffin's views. Same WRT the Graun & Hamas. n/t shira Jun 2012 #57
What's the problem? He just wants to end Israel. How is that bad? aranthus Jun 2012 #14
He's a good liberal mensch. Anti-occupation, pro-peace... shira Jun 2012 #15
This is not an endorsement of Haniyeh LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #34
If you agree the Guardian is heavily tilted anti-zionist.... shira Jun 2012 #42
I understand that. aranthus Jun 2012 #49
Well put. Here's Haniyeh on video just 6 months ago with his real views... shira Jun 2012 #50
But not bigoted enough for Shira to resist quoting the Guardian when it suits her!.......n/t. kayecy Jun 2012 #21
I quote it knowing that extreme anti-zios like yrself find it credible and antiracist. shira Jun 2012 #27
Freedom of speech is very precious................... kayecy Jun 2012 #31
So no-one, not even the Jewish, can say anything bad about Israel? intaglio Jun 2012 #38
"The Zionists currently in occupation of Israel's Government" oberliner Jun 2012 #39
You mean like Israel has no right to exist and should be destroyed? The Guardian and CiF... shira Jun 2012 #43
So they are not bigoted intaglio Jun 2012 #45
Of course they are shira Jun 2012 #48
How can Hamas be anti-Semitic? intaglio Jun 2012 #52
'Antisemitic' is a term invented by Europaean antisemites to mean anti-Jewish LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #53
Genocidally antisemitic. Go about 6-8 videos down and you'll find where I start citing Hamas.... shira Jun 2012 #60
No; the Daily Mail, Daily Express and the Sun are much worse. LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #32
LB, do you agree that the Guardian is generally anti-zionist in its reporting? Not just... shira Jun 2012 #40
No, not generally (yes, sometimes). I agree that the bloggers on CiF include a disproportionate LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #54
Yes, to their credit they also publish Nick Cohen a lot... shira Jun 2012 #61
Hamas are indeed evil right-wingers LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #72
The Guardian is the mirror image of those hard rightwing publications that incite against minorities shira Jul 2012 #73
Even if that were true, the Sun has a daily circulation of 2 1/2 million, and the Daily Mail LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #74
Islamism, and the Guardian left’s moral complicity with explicit antisemitism shira Jun 2012 #68
Der Sturmer in the UK? shira Jun 2012 #69
Guardian article blames Jews for killing Mer-Khanis in Jenin.... shira Jul 2012 #71
No its not dipsydoodle Jul 2012 #76
Current leader of Hamas has explicitly stated their charter is historical, not operative now Cicada Jul 2012 #78
Tunisians greet Hamas leader with chants of “Kill the Jews!” shira Jul 2012 #79
Guardian’s Jewish problem: Paper praises extreme antisemitic site CounterPunch as ‘progressive’ shira Jul 2012 #81
You realize that by calling such stalwarts of Progressive and Leftist ideological elites antisemitic aranthus Jul 2012 #82
Do you think the CounterPunch radicals are ideological elites within the Progressive Left? n/t shira Jul 2012 #83
Not necessarily, but I would say that about the Guardian. aranthus Jul 2012 #84
the key is in the repackaging of terms liberal, progressive, leftist azurnoir Jul 2012 #85
So what do you personally make of CounterPunch and the Guardian? Do they generally represent.... shira Jul 2012 #86
sometimes CounterPunch does and sometimes it does not azurnoir Jul 2012 #88
So who or what organizations best represent Progressive ideology in your opinion? n/t shira Jul 2012 #90
well for starters B'tselem, Gush Shalom, Jewish Voices for Peace azurnoir Jul 2012 #93
JVP is for BDS. In fact, what sets them apart from Miles of Smiles.... shira Jul 2012 #111
What rubbish !! King_David Jul 2012 #87
Do you consider yourself progressive, liberal, or both? n/t shira Jul 2012 #89
Both King_David Jul 2012 #91
As perhaps a poster who supports the notion of keeping a brutal and illegal war/military occupation azurnoir Jul 2012 #92
You have made it abundantly clear King_David Jul 2012 #94
oh so you think a conservative would welcome my support of Gay Marriage ? azurnoir Jul 2012 #95
I am proud of the post you somehow think shames King_David Jul 2012 #96
yes you seem to be proud of wishing to continue a war that has resulted in countless deaths azurnoir Jul 2012 #97
Please feel free to repost , King_David Jul 2012 #98
it isyour statement and you are the one claiming support azurnoir Jul 2012 #99
I am proud of my post King_David Jul 2012 #101
ok I am going to put it another way azurnoir Jul 2012 #102
a caveat though I am talking about your support for the continueing the Iraq war azurnoir Jul 2012 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #103
No, it isn't. LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #103
So if CounterPunch isn't Leftwing at all in your view, why is the Guardian praising it? shira Jul 2012 #105
Because Cockburn just died, eliciting piety; and because the Guardian isn't consistently left wing LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #106
something else IMO as or more disturbing azurnoir Jul 2012 #107
I would have thought that it was the other way around. aranthus Jul 2012 #108
Maybe the confusion lies with people who conflate criticism of Hamas or the PLO with.... shira Jul 2012 #110
The Guardian isn't 'consistently' left-wing? How can they be considered left-wing at all... shira Jul 2012 #109
BBC’s Disgusting Response to Olympic Complaints shira Jul 2012 #112
The Guardian’s Seumas Milne defends Palestinians’ right to kill Israelis shira Nov 2012 #113
Seumas Milne says Hamas has right to resist (see video starting ~ 1:20) shira Nov 2012 #114
Chris McGreal: Why any Israeli can be murdered via terrorism shira Nov 2012 #115
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