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Deep13

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26. Who? nt

Reply to GliderGuider (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:28 PM

Dec 2012

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The thing keeping us from fighting global warming is that TPTB won't listen to us. [View all] GliderGuider Dec 2012 OP

Permian-Triassic Extinction Event Part II: Permian Harder AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #1

The problem is that "we" aren't listening to the system NoOneMan Dec 2012 #2

I think resignation is a larger problem OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #3

That third group you mentioned AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #5

Everything we do is a natural process OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #20

Attempting to restore the ecosystem is screwing with it The2ndWheel Dec 2012 #23

“If we don't kill ourselves, we will likely kill many (if not all) of the other species currently…” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #25

What would you see as a solution if the skeptics capitulated? GliderGuider Dec 2012 #6

The solution is to shut down the global economy pscot Dec 2012 #9

Oh, no question. Even I wouldn't like it much. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #10

I'd like to understand, but I don't pscot Dec 2012 #14

I don't see that it has to be true. Iterate Dec 2012 #13

I advocate the end of farming NoOneMan Dec 2012 #15

I tend to side with Daniel Quinn and Jared Diamond when it comes to farming. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #16

No, I didn't forget your posts. Iterate Dec 2012 #18

we could start with food rationing. Blackhawk44 Dec 2012 #36

You could stop half the farms and still have enough food NoOneMan Dec 2012 #37

Well, first off, I don’t see a way to avoid carbon capture and sequestration at this point OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #21

Yes, getting back to 350 or below is the issue isn't it? GliderGuider Dec 2012 #22

You know… Freeman Dyson actually made a decent point about the Keeling Curve OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #32

“Pulling CO2 back out of the air might be easier than building jets and cars that don’t emit it.” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #33

There's too much profit to be had, why would they listen? joshcryer Dec 2012 #4

There's too much comfort to be had, why would WE listen? nt GliderGuider Dec 2012 #7

Two words: Twelve Monkeys AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #8

Absolutely right. One small example... Iterate Dec 2012 #11

Low carbon folks are a copascetic crowd. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #12

I figure 35mph. hunter Dec 2012 #24

Yes, most people would say we can't have an immediate end to all fossil fuel use muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #17

I would call such a crash program more of a response than a solution. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #19

Who? nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #26

Who what? nt GliderGuider Dec 2012 #29

TPTB. nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #31

the problem is MrDiaz Dec 2012 #27

Yes, that's the dilemma isn't it? GliderGuider Dec 2012 #30

Here are the walls of the carbon box we're in, as I see them GliderGuider Dec 2012 #28

That's a succinct (if gloomy) summary Nihil Dec 2012 #35

Hell the powers that be, blame us, ... CRH Dec 2012 #34