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In the discussion thread: Global Carbon Emissions up 2.5% During 2011 - 34 Billion Metric Tons New Record High [View all]
Response to hatrack (Original post)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:56 AM
GliderGuider (15,224 posts)
8. From Kevin Anderson, DD of the Tyndall Center:
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Last edited Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:30 AM USA/ET - Edit history (3) http://www.bristol.ac.uk/cabot/documents/anderson-ppt.pdf
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2012/11//502497.mp3 It's more than passing strange how much honest science resembles the views of us doomers. From the PDF, regarding the delusional nature of most of the current authoritative projections about carbon: ...with few exceptions, these include:
Recent historical emissions sometimes ‘mistaken’ or ‘massaged’ Short-term emission growth seriously down played Peak year choice ‘Machiavellian’ & dangerously misleading Reduction rate universally dictated by economists Geoengineering widespread in low carbon scenarios Annex 1/non-Annex 1 emissions split neglected or hidden Assumptions about ‘Big’ technology naively optimistic (‘Net’ Costs meaningless with non-marginal mitigation & adaptation) Collectively – they have a magician’s view of time & a linear view of problems ? Again from Anderson's talk: For 4°C global mean surface temperature
5°C - 6°C global land mean … & increase °C on the hottest days of: 6°C - 8°C in China 8°C - 10°C in Central Europe 10°C -12°C in New York In low latitudes 4°C gives up to 40% reduction in maize & rice as population heads towards 9 billion by 2050 And this is from Fatih Birol (chief economist of the IEA): “When I look at this data, the trend is perfectly in line with a temperature increase of 6 degrees Celsius, which would have devastating consequences for the planet.” Read the Powerpoint, listen to the mp3, and then tell me we're going to make it... |
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