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Fri Nov 22, 2013, 10:35 AM

23. A must read article on Obamacare....Tuskegee on a larger scale

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/11/obamacare-tina-medical-ethics-and-the-health-care-economist.html
Here's what ticks me off: The ObamaCare Marketplace -- supported by Obama (personally), and Cutler (personally) -- is a health care experiment, where proven solutions already exist (see the charts), on a captive population, without their informed consent. ObamaCare's test subjects are captives because of the mandate; and if they consented to participate, they were not informed of alternatives to the experiment, because the administration and the Democratic nomenklatura systematically censored single payer advocacy -- the obvious alternative to being experimented upon -- throughout the passage of ObamaCare. It should not be necessary to say that experimenting on consumers patients without informed consent is a gross violation of medical ethics. Bogus experiment; no informed consent; captive population. Does that remind you of anything? That's right: the Tuskegee experiments. Except, to be fair, on a much larger scale.


If you want to know where this crap about health care "consumers" comes from, look no further than Harvard....

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2013/11/why-does-health-care-cost-so-much-in-america-ask-harvards-david-cutler.html

So if your doctor says you need an MRI, you can go on the computer and your insurance company's website and figure out exactly your cost sharing at each place where they would do the MRI.

Paul Solman: So that will provide comparison shopping.

David Cutler: That's on the demand side. Give people more skin in the game and give them the information so they can do real shopping.

Paul Solman: More skin in the game, meaning higher co-pays?

David Cutler: Higher co-pays. We know that people respond to co-payments and they like cheaper care.
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In a lot of parts of the country, they're just saying, "Look, if you want this service at all, you're going to pay a lot of money." The trend in health care nationally is to put more and more on the patient.


Kudos to the poster klltalley who replied to that article:
I get so tired of listening to people like Harvardís David Cutler referring to healthcare patients as consumers. Like I am going out to buy a TV rather than wondering if the experts are going to be able to save my life while sick as a dog.
And more skin in the game. As if when I am in a car accident or have a heart attack or kidney stones or diabetes, a patient has any real choices except to deal with the bills assuming they survive.


Lambert:

What could go wrong? Consumer, my sweet Aunt Fanny. Are these people demented?


Read the whole thing....

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