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Warren DeMontague

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6. Here's my point. Going by the "traditional", Mitt Romney style family arrangement
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 05:11 PM
Apr 2012

which is, by no means, the only or best means of arranging work/home life, mind you;

but, in the cases where mom has been the primary caregiver and the dad has been the primary breadwinner, it makes SENSE for the mom to continue to be the primary caregiver and for the dad to continue to provide financially.

Of course, if the genders are reversed with a SAHD and a working mom, I would think that the same would apply in that direction.

But I sense that the "objections" of many of these "Dads" (and no, kids aren't a consumer good, but they are a RESPONSIBILITY and a big part of that responsibility is financial, absolutely) is that all of a sudden they feel like they're paying but not getting the same return. They're financing (in their mind) an ex who they're no longer involved with, and they're entirely possibly not as directly involved in their kids lives, given that they're not living with them.

And I agree that custody is a thorny issue- but again, does it make sense to mandate full 50% custody between a previously stay at home parent and one who is working out of the house 40+ hrs a week? How is that supposed to work, exactly?

Like I said, I'm also a child of divorce. I came from a generation where in the space of about 10 years many of my peers experienced the same. It sucks, and there are no easy answers. It's one reason why I was always determined not to get married & have kids until I was damn sure I was prepared to fully commit to making it work.

Charles Bruce and debtors prison [View all] lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 OP
What was his income when he was accruing the debt? noamnety Apr 2012 #1
Imputed income is a fascinating topic. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #2
I can talk some about impuded income as it applied to us. noamnety Apr 2012 #3
I'd like to see some unbiased, real data on this case, too. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #4
Kids aren't a consumer good. One doesn't need "to pay for them", one needs to "parent" them. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #5
Here's my point. Going by the "traditional", Mitt Romney style family arrangement Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #6
The court can't mandate anything. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #7
You and I agree on much, but I think we part ways on a couple parts too. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #8
Responsibility for ones kids? Absolutely. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #9
I hear you, Jeff. In my family it was my dad who was the alcoholic. I do suspect that both our Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #14
Fitness based on what though? Whose criteria. There really only is one acceptable one stevenleser Apr 2012 #21
I'd start with who has been providing the majority of care, and then see how the kids feel. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #24
And I think that since the marital union is not an issue any longer, any arrangements made are not stevenleser Apr 2012 #25
You don't think, for instance, that the fact that one parent has spent 10 yrs in the workforce Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #26
No.Let's turn that around. Since one that one parent has spent 10 years in the workforce should they stevenleser Apr 2012 #27
You think I'm advocating for a particular position. I'm not. Nt Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #28
Dennis Rodman and Dave Foley Mammone Apr 2012 #12
Technically, Dave foley owes money in Canada, not the us. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #13
So they should go to jail? Mammone Apr 2012 #15
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying the narrative of "greedy ex... and !kids!" Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #16
The courts are the greedy ones Mammone Apr 2012 #17
Judges get a cut of child support that they order? Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #18
yes states get kickbacks and do pass on bonuses to judges Mammone Apr 2012 #19
excellent link. Bookmarking. nt lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #20
When your kids live with you half of the time, you are supporting them. Period. nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #22
I think denial of custodial rights should = no child support tech_smythe Apr 2012 #10
I think it should trigger revisiting the custody decision lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #11
a parent who prevents visitations... grasswire May 2012 #30
Unless it's the mother alienating the father... then it's ok tech_smythe May 2012 #31
The whole non-custodial parent is an invented and discriminatory state that is unnecessary stevenleser Apr 2012 #23
Progress is slow when there's a strong financial incentive to keep it the way it is. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #29
Is this Charles Bruce? Cokab16 Jun 2016 #32
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