In the discussion thread: I feel like liberals are overwhelmingly opposed to Kerry vacating his seat. [View all]
Response to beachmom (Original post)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:03 PM
karynnj (53,381 posts)
6. Not Kerry's peers in the Senate - like Ben Cardin per the quote that I posted in the other thread
The other comment I would have is that there were very few on Daily Kos who EVER supported Kerry for anything. I suspect that there is not just concern on Brown, but the latent anti Kerry nonsense that is prevalent even when he is doing good things that they agree with.
Think back to the DK thread in 2005 that whined that Reid and others in the Senate were angry that Kerry was acting as if he were ONE of the Democratic leaders - when he was the most recent standard bearer who game within a very small number of votes in Ohio to being the President.
Remember ALL the diaries that suggested Obama needed to give Hillary something - or that Kennedy needed to create a special sub committee of the HELP committee that would create the health care bill - chaired by Hillary. Consider all the people (not liberals) suggesting that Obama find an important use for Romney. The fact is that neither the internet or the pundits of the beltway have ever advocated for Kerry.
They might actually make a better case if they argued that he was too valuable in the Senate - rather than effectively saying that he is a D seat warmer.
I do agree with you that for many BAD reasons Kerry will not get SOS. I hope, if offered, he turns down SOD. Why walk into a mess where you will be the likely scapegoat if the military gets too angry over Obama's choices to revamp the military. He owes Obama nothing and it is clear that Obama and others likely led him on - both this year and in 2008 - on SOS.
Not to mention - even if Brown did run and win, he needs to run again in 2014. So, he will have had 4 elections within 4 years. The 2014 election is at the same time as the Governors race in MA, so the turnout would be higher than normal. In the first, it was not just that it was a special election, but that the Democrats were complacent. Additionally, he ran as a blank slate, claiming he was moderate - even verging to the left (on a national spectrum). His ads used JFK and did not say he was Republican. He now has a record -- and it is so unpopular in MA that he ran on Warren being a fake Indian and for big companies! He is not the "nice" guy of 2010.
Brown might not even run. The fact is that for Senate, party matters. Not so for Governor. If he ran for Senate and lost, he would likely after 2 losing elections not get the nomination for Governor.
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