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Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:54 AM

1. Communism failed in Russia

Not for any of the reasons you stated, but for the simple fact:

Any system that ignores basic human behavior is doomed to failure.

To expand:

If people were perfect, communism and libertarianism would work. But people aren't, so they don't.

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Did Lenin break with Marx? [View all]	white_wolf	Feb 2012	OP
Communism failed in Russia	Confusious	Feb 2012	#1
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but...	white_wolf	Feb 2012	#2
One of the most widespread popular maxims is, "human nature cannot be changed."	tralala	Apr 2012	#17
Let's turn the question around then. :)	Starry Messenger	Feb 2012	#3
Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. Let's focus on was Marx right on where socialism would occur	white_wolf	Feb 2012	#4
I'm back. I got distracted reading more of the Parenti book.	Starry Messenger	Feb 2012	#6
I've done some quick research on this topic and found a quote from Lenin that might be useful.	white_wolf	Feb 2012	#8
I think you're on the right track here -	TBF	Feb 2012	#13
Just a little clarification about my views on union actions and the Occupy ..........	socialist_n_TN	Feb 2012	#14
IMO, because state socialism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin.	joshcryer	Feb 2012	#7
Just a couple quick points	RZM	Feb 2012	#5
That is a very good point.	mistertrickster	Feb 2012	#9
As to Russia, the rise of the bureaucracy led to the...........	socialist_n_TN	Feb 2012	#10
Interesting analysis. I agree with that. nt	mistertrickster	Feb 2012	#11
The part about the bureaucracy in the USSR came from Trotsky........	socialist_n_TN	Feb 2012	#12
i thought it was the opposite that happened	tralala	Apr 2012	#18
Well it might be a "chicken or egg" thing............	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2012	#19
Bolshevism in general broke with Marx in many ways.	bayareamike	Mar 2012	#15
why haven't there been any internally-generated revolutions in the "advanced" countries, then?	tralala	Apr 2012	#16
That's two questions there..........	socialist_n_TN	Apr 2012	#20
There have. It's called the internet.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#21
Hmmm... I'm not sure those were internally generated. nt	TBF	Apr 2012	#22
The entire open source movement which is largely the basis for the net...	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#23
Here, check out this video (Revolution OS):	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#24
Thank you for this conversation	MrYikes	Apr 2012	#25

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