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In reply to the discussion: What does Socialism look like to you? [View all]limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)47. True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence
This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rightsamong them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.
As our nation has grown in size and stature, howeveras our industrial economy expandedthese political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. Necessitous men are not free men.[3] People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for allregardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.
For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
As our nation has grown in size and stature, howeveras our industrial economy expandedthese political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. Necessitous men are not free men.[3] People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for allregardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.
For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights)
Not exactly a radical idea. It's part of the best tradition of the Democratic Party.
See also "Four Freedoms" .
What's your take on it?
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I like China's approach to socialism of limiting women to one baby and eventually using genetic
jody
Nov 2012
#1
China is Communist, which is more authoritarin than many varieties of Socialism are. nt
patrice
Nov 2012
#4
& Shame on you for trying to turn a thread about Socialism into a whatever forum. Start
patrice
Nov 2012
#8
BS I responded to the OP. Are you ignorant of China's socialist policies to limit population and
jody
Nov 2012
#9
Do you think all Republicans hate Obama? Same logic as the statement above. Weak.
patrice
Nov 2012
#26
On edit you added "it has more to do with autocracy". Don't you know that socialism requires a
jody
Nov 2012
#12
Don't you know that Socialism requires no such thing. You have just disqualified yourself
patrice
Nov 2012
#20
I concede and understand your policy, your group allows only pro-red posts and bans "red-baiting"
jody
Nov 2012
#21
It's an oversimplification to assume that the weight of any fact is the same in all situations, all
patrice
Nov 2012
#24
Worker defined & governed Real Value in exchange for Real Value. The MOST efficient economic
patrice
Nov 2012
#2
I like the definition that Adam Smith uses in The Wealth of Nations, in the simplist terms,
patrice
Nov 2012
#10
I don't mind people disagreeing with me; what I don't like is being mis-understood.
patrice
Jun 2013
#124
capitalism has a growth imperative. socialism doesn't. there's no requirement for growth in
HiPointDem
May 2013
#110
Odd how what appears to be "Libertarian" folk are AGAINST worker AUTONOMY, isn't it. Apparently
patrice
Nov 2012
#28
Thanks, your "traditional liberties" aka natural, inherent, inalienable/unalienable rights in
jody
Nov 2012
#46
True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence
limpyhobbler
Nov 2012
#47
I still don't understand how those things you want to call "rights" can be shown to pre-exist our
jody
Nov 2012
#48
Because such rights cannot be alienated, given away, however SCOTUS has offered opinions that allow
jody
Nov 2012
#50
Apparently you and I have a different understanding of rights. My thoughts on the topic are at
jody
Nov 2012
#59
Because some states declared them and it's up to state and federal courts to decide whether
jody
Nov 2012
#68
So you think rights are inalienable because they are declared in state constitutions?
limpyhobbler
Nov 2012
#70
A right is either enumerated or unenumerated. Suggest you read the history of our Bill of Rights. nt
jody
Nov 2012
#71
What is your point in posting state constitutions? What point are you trying to make, if any?
limpyhobbler
Nov 2012
#76
Why do you introduce slave owner? You do know that WA and CO just exercised nullification by making
jody
Nov 2012
#63
OK one major problem is a generation gap or perhaps two but we've had an interesting exchange. Have
jody
Nov 2012
#65
I'm 77 and survived a near death experience via heart attack five years ago. Every morning I wake up
jody
Nov 2012
#69
Nullification per Jefferson&Madison is states exercising their Tenth Amendment power, see link below
jody
Dec 2012
#93
Starry Messenger I'm very disappointed that your OP has not triggered a spirited, intelligent
jody
Nov 2012
#51
An increased percentage of the mix as a transitional step along the path to our next plane
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#85
You're right about that, Starry. I'm on the edge of that propaganda effort myself.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#87
Right again, no matter which way we go I've yet to catch a projection that they don't make worse.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#89
You're assuming that the ruling class has some investment in maintaining the lives of the
HiPointDem
May 2013
#111