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Response to LooseWilly (Reply #56)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:11 AM

59. You do realize the mere fact that I disagree with his theories doesn't make him an asshole,right?

I really don't know where you are getting this from. Now as to why I disagree with him? Well for starters, I disagree over the issue of Socialism in One Country. Though, that is arguably more Stalin's theory than Lenin's. I'm not alone in that disagreement either, only Marxist-Leninists think it is possible to build socialism in country. Trotskyists who are also Leninists don't think it is, anarchists don't, Left Communists don't, Luxemburgists don't. The idea of building socialism in one country is in contradiction of pretty much every socialist theorist before or after Stalin and Mao. Indeed, I've seen some Left Communists refer to Leninism as the largest act of revisionism (to borrow a Marxist-Leninist term) in the history of Marxism.

As to other areas of disagreement, I think Rosa Luxemburgs complaints about the centralizing of political power in the hands of a party and the dangers of giving too much power over to a bureaucracy have been proven correct. Again, I'm not in the minority on that criticism either, aside from Marxist-Leninism (Stalinism such you seem to refuse to acknowledge other strains of Leninist thought) I doubt you'll find a single branch of socialism that does not agree with me that the centralizing of power in the hands of a Vanguard failed. Even Leon Trotsky realized it was a mistake, he realized it too late to do a damn thing, but he realized it.

Granted, I don't expect to sway you with any of this, I'm sure you've heard it all before and more eloquently and have reasons for disagreeing, which is fine.

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