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Response to white_wolf (Reply #48)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:56 AM

50. I think you've voiced something that I've always thought was an essential point.

The external pressures are exactly why I think the USSR adopted the authoritarian measures it did adopt... though I'm not convinced the measures were as authoritarian as the Hoover Institute would have us believe.

Nevertheless, the need to adopt what measures were adopted is then used as an argument against what socialism, or communism, can accomplish. Fending off the Nazis, who overran all of Western Europe and might've overrun the UK too had they not decided to try their luck against the USSR first, is generally dismissed as an achievement of socialism. The fact that the most backward country of Europe managed such a miraculous productivity build-up in so short of a time is dismissed. The fact that such development would've been impossible by means of a capitalist system is dismissed.

So much is dismissed.

And now you are also dismissing what Greek workers might be capable of.

Just saying...

When I'm working for insignificant wages, I don't work so hard. No one else works that hard either. If we thought we had a stake in the product of that work... might we work harder?... What do you think?

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