In the discussion thread: Another 'conspiracy theory' shown to be fact: Who Killed Che? How the CIA Got Away With Murder [View all]
Response to eomer (Reply #6)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:04 AM
LooseWilly (4,448 posts)
13. What, precisely, is the difference between "socialism" and "totalitarianism"? US acquiescence?
Swedish Socialism is ok, because there're "votes" and US corporations are allowed to run rampant... but Russian socialism was bad because... there were no votings outside of the party votes?... or because US corporations weren't allowed to run rampant?
I would suggest that the difference is really one of acceptability to US imperialist interests... with the nominal "vote" held up as a sort of substitute for the real issue of complicity with US imperial interests, or opposition to said imperial interests.
Cuban socialism doesn't "play nice" with US corporate interests... it's "totalitarian".
The USSR didn't "play nice" with US corporate interests (as they were evolving post WWII)... it was "totalitarian".
The UK "signed up" for NATO and sent advisors to help CIA, etc, develop into agencies capable of running a (Imperial)/"Global" military/political establishment... they are "socialist".
North Korea?— Totalitarian.
Saudi Arabia?— Socialist (?).
Bolivia?— "Free market".
Che?— Dead in the streets.
If you are pro-Cuba but anti-Che... then you are pro-Cuba but pro-Cuba in the way the Koch brothers are pro-USA... giddy at the thought of potential exploitation of a portion of the population of one's country that may not be savvy enough to defend themselves from your (or your associates') abuse.
I'm proud to be.. ok, willing to be acknowledged as... a member of an Iranian family that lost considerable economic power in THAT revolution... which likewise undermined the finances and political/economic control of US collaborators over the most profitable sectors of the local economy.
I feel for your half-breed children, much as I feel for my half-breed self... but that selfish basis of "woe is me" at the hands of the revolutionaries is just... embarrassing.
You should be embarrassed, tough guy.
The notion that Cuba, or Iran, can institute Democratic institutions, in the face of incipient US aggression... is a non-serious talking point.
It is up to the US government to take a half-breath and promise no hostilities as a result, and possibly even some rewards... before a serious effort to take "democratic" steps can be made by any of the governments currently under threats of one sort or another by the US agencies...
I'm curious to hear though, how you could possibly "bad mouth" Che without giving yourself away as an apologist of the rich and powerful... Have fun giving that a shot...
Afghanistan— It's made from magic terrorist dirt...
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