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Response to RZM (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:31 AM

9. That is a very good point.

 

Like a lot of other movements -- civil rights here for instance -- the leaders were often passed by by direct action.

Why did communism fail in the CCCP? For that matter, why did it fail in China?

I don't know. But if I had to guess, it would be that one, the model they used was flawed: a five year plan in which all weath is controlled by the gov't is only one possible form communism could take. Expropriating all weath at the point of a gun is not what Marx had in mind.

Two, in both the CCCP and China, communism quickly became antidemocratic and its leaders demanded and got cult worshipping status. Stalin and Mao eventually became far more concerned about killing potential rivals than implementing communism . . . So the movement was destroyed by fascists who simply used it for personal power.

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