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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:33 PM

7. My BIL got his MBA from Michigan State University in the mid-70's. Turns out that, if...

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... you're REALLY good and REALLY career-proactive in the marketing field, chances are you'll end up
in NYC (Manhattan, specifically). He and several of his classmate buddies did just that. He threw a
Christmas Eve Dessert party (MiddleFingerMomSis, not knowing how to boil hot dogs when she got
married in '73, had become the finest amateur gourmet cook that I've ever known and was thinking
of starting a dessert catering business, -- dessert party business meetings having taken the place of
the 2-3 martini lunch in the mid-80's).
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Interesting, surprisingly aware and volunteer-active group of folks. I liked 'em. My favorite (of course)
was the "hippie" of their MBA crowd in college (he confessed to me that sometimes he thought the
BIGGEST mistake he had made was in selling his drum kit so that he could complete his degree. On
one hand, here was a man making maybe 200K+ in the mid-80's -- on the other hand, that same
man once drummed in Chuck Berry's back-up band).
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He told me of his very first advertising agency interview in the mid-70's, to which he had worn his
only suit and his only dress shirt, which had Daffy Duck and Porky Pig embroidered on the lapels.
Several minutes into the questions, the interviewer stopped cold and asked, "You're here for the
marketing job, aren't you? This interview is over. Judging from your attire, I thought you were
here for a job with the creative department."
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He then gave him some of the simplest, most effective jobhunting advice EVER -- invest in a plain
white dress shirt.
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He got a job soon after.
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One of my favorite "creative" stories.
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If you're talking artistic and you're frustrated because no one has recognized your Picasso-level
work, keep in mind that (I believer) Picasso didn't sell his first masterpiece until he was 56.
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If you're talking organizationally creative, go back and start taking baby steps again. Trying to
fix the world would frustrate anyone with at least one foot on the ground.
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Trying to feed a few more people with the same resources can be HUGE (especially for those
few more people).
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Sometimes, when I've disappointed myself, I've tried to take a realistic and effective look at
what I did/didn't do.
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Often, I end realizing that, not only wasn't it a BAD thing -- it was actually kind of a good thing
that I had accomplished, which makes me laugh and ask, "Just who the fuck do I think I am?"
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