Reply #83

I didn't notice you showing me how the real-world says I'm wrong through all those real-world explanations of why you're full of it. All you said was "No, you're wrong" repeatedly as I repeatedly showed you why I was right and explained to you why you were wrong based not in theories but in facts and the real-world; experiences and insights gained working in food-service, having conversations with waitresses and baristas about how they wish sleazy men would take the hint that they don't want to be asked out while they're trying to work. Is that clear enough for you, they want you to know it's not appropriate to ask them out at work...that's not out of some theory in a book, it out of the mouths of the waitstaff I worked with for 8 years in food-service, preceded by 2 years in public relations in the non-profit sector and followed by 3 years in a public-facing role in banking. 15 years of working with the public, 15 years of female coworkers skeeved-out by guys that don't know it's not appropriate to ask them out at work.

Hint: Waitresses and other service workers get fired daily for refusing the advances of customers. They get fired because they get blamed when their pursuer makes a scene or because he comes back and harbors complaints against them repeatedly until they get fired or he calls corporate and lies his face off or shitcans them on those moronic customer-service surveys on the back of the receipt because we automatically get fired if the customer satisfaction score falls below 70%--it's easily possible for one daily customer to get someone fired: come in, get their coffee, call the survey number giving them all zeros...it only take about 3 0-scores in a month to insure that someone loses their job. It happens all the time.

Service sector employees often lose their jobs because someone asked them out and had a pissy reaction when they said "no"; they lose them in all the ways listed above. QED. Checkmate. Your entire defense just died with it.

So...You're wrong. You're provably wrong and you've been proven wrong. You should abandon this wrong-headed position of yours and quit with the fake "defender of women" act.

Oh noes! Oh noes! What will all the waitresses and service-sector employee women do without DutchLiberal defending their right to be hit on by skeevy men, stalked and harassed until they're forced to quit their jobs or get fired?

Perhaps you're not the ass that can't take "no" for an answer, but those guys...have made it inappropriate for the rest of you. You don't have to like it but at-least know that it's true.