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AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
38. ........
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:48 PM
Feb 2013
but here's a question:

consider a lily pond that fills with lilies after 30 days, and every day the lilies double in number.

On what day is the pond half full of lilies?

The 29th day.


Yeah, overpopulation is a problem: and part of it, btw, is the fact that we are not really quite as efficient as we could be. I mean, we're still burning coal for chrissakes.



What I'm saying is what happens when the jet stream stops moving, the rains don't stop or never come, or it just totally reorganizes itself in a given year, as models suggest might occur? Don't we at least need to try to be ready to minimize the damage?

What if the northern hemisphere just turns into a giant one way wind storm? (OK that was a bit shrill, even for me, because I haven't actually seen the predictions on what happens *after* the atmospheric bands dissolve. Hopefully we never have to find out).


Most of this isn't actually going to happen, though(at least not by global warming!), that's the problem.....well, except the re-alignment of the jet stream I suppose, but everything else is sci-fi: none of that other stuff is even indicated in paleoclimate records that we know of, at least not caused by climate change.



I'm also very hopeful if we can just get through this, we could be at the dawn of a golden solar age -- solar grid parity is already upon us in many sectors and places, and only the sluggish ignorance of the American body politic has prevented us from preparing for the event as Germany so brilliantly has. When that comes, and energy production becomes much more decentralized, that will break the death grip of the Kochs and their ilk on our government and cultural discourse. We will see massive positive changes at every level, hopefully including a final recognition energy was never the solution to begin with, nor gluttonous consumption of material goods, and without the centralized advertising culture telling us how to behave we'll start to act a bit like humans again, at long last.


Here's hoping it happens sooner rather than later.....

But we can't get there unless we make sure we have oxygen to breathe first, is all I'm saying.


I don't think we'll need to worry about that particular thing, though, at least.

Well, let's see what happens to the sea ice the next few years (new PIOMAS ice volume numbers are out today by the way), and meanwhile, I'll keep trying to find ways to help save this poor old planet, whatever anyone else thinks.


That's the spirit!
I love it! Just perfect! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #1
Be prepared for 'the regional party' to deny aid for the States of Northern Aggression. nt onehandle Feb 2013 #2
That train is never late, is it? freshwest Feb 2013 #6
historic heaven05 Feb 2013 #3
Global Warming is a sound bite thetonka Feb 2013 #7
okay heaven05 Feb 2013 #9
None of that changes the fact that it's just not as simple as the Globe Warming. thetonka Feb 2013 #24
While heaven05 is definitely incorrect about the "destroyed planet" thing to an extent..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #10
anthropogenic heaven05 Feb 2013 #16
But it is due to global warming that these wild weather glowing Feb 2013 #15
I'm heaven05 Feb 2013 #17
Look at it this way thetonka Feb 2013 #27
I have a degree I both Marine Science and Environmental glowing Feb 2013 #28
I live in South Korea davidpdx Feb 2013 #43
And it's likely to get crazier on both ends, too. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #53
I should also mention we've been getting our share of the typhoons as well davidpdx Feb 2013 #54
yeah heaven05 Feb 2013 #48
It's all a hoax perpetrated by Al Gore tclambert Feb 2013 #37
Unfortunately the morons that can actually do something about it lexx21 Feb 2013 #55
Actually, the people who can do something about it are us thetonka Feb 2013 #56
Be on the lookout for iced teabaggers Blue Owl Feb 2013 #4
And a spike in DU posts while people stay home. Coyotl Feb 2013 #5
What do you call a group of douchebags who deny climate change? siligut Feb 2013 #8
LOL, good one! AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #11
Doomers? Coven is good because it tends to be religious. siligut Feb 2013 #14
I personally don't "detest" the doomers for the most part..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #57
actually it's not ridiculous at all wial Feb 2013 #25
It's one thing to be validly concerned, however..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #29
Have you ever considered the data in the fossil record, wial Feb 2013 #33
Yes, and I didn't intend to imply that feedbacks were impossible, period..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #39
Also, past predictions about global famine: AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #30
I appreciate your taking the time to post those links wial Feb 2013 #34
........ AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #38
I heaven05 Feb 2013 #49
As opposed to some of the extreme doomer B.S. that's been posted on this site..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #52
A "Douchezard"? riqster Feb 2013 #22
Douchezard! Very good! siligut Feb 2013 #23
Investors. nt raouldukelives Feb 2013 #40
!!! Oilmen siligut Feb 2013 #41
Anyone who might be up there, stay safe today. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #12
Daughter says raining on Long Island HockeyMom Feb 2013 #13
"Up to two feet" and a weeks notice before hand. Not a very big deal at all. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #18
Wait, are you serious, though? Or just kidding? AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #19
I grew up in Chicago and "up to" two feet of snow was not a big deal. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #42
OY! I just got my boys out of there! calimary Feb 2013 #20
must be slow news day.... geckosfeet Feb 2013 #21
Thanks EarlG.. a little levity Cha Feb 2013 #26
Beautiful! nt valerief Feb 2013 #31
A storm is coming Mr. Wayne... Initech Feb 2013 #32
stealing this one!! OKNancy Feb 2013 #35
And . . . Eric Cantor will call for government spending cuts to offset any aid to areas tclambert Feb 2013 #36
We're all up here getting shitfaced graywarrior Feb 2013 #44
yeah been hearing that already PatrynXX Feb 2013 #45
Still snowing here in NE NY, started last night and still coming down Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #46
The worst part about global climate change for me is: 90-percent Feb 2013 #47
I agree with most of this, but there's one thing that needs to be addressed. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #51
Message auto-removed ahmedfiad Feb 2013 #50
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