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bettyellen (20,596 posts)

17. asking feminists to "sweeten up" their message to appeal to you is pathetic. making human rights

issues palatable to you should not be their main concern. Why would you think assuaging your ego should be central to women's concerns? Seriously?

And when activists are having discussions about their purpose and aims, any idiot who spews sexist regressive shit off the top of their heads is NOT going to be listened to. This goes for any group- not just feminists. You actually have to do some work, have some knowledge of the topic at hand if you don't want to be laughed out of the room. The swill this kid was pitching was right out of Fox news, if he was any older, he'd not be treated so kindly. Just a reality check for you.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]	AProgressiveThinker	Jan 2013	OP
Just because...	Isoldeblue	Jan 2013	#1
a 12 year old who's bitter about "hot girls" being able to date whoever they like, LOL. Utter CRAP.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#2
I see him as a young man	zeemike	Jan 2013	#5
and I see him as a sad example of how early male entitlement starts....	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#7
Well it does take nerve to speak up when it is intimidating	zeemike	Jan 2013	#9
wow, you think one woman "turning you off" is significant enough to change how views on human rights	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#10
No THIS is what turns me off about feminism	zeemike	Jan 2013	#14
asking feminists to "sweeten up" their message to appeal to you is pathetic. making human rights	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#17
Well more evidence of just what I am talking about,	zeemike	Jan 2013	#18
ha ha radicals. actually we claim feminism not because we are "most angry" about it, but because	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#25
Well the NAACP don't need any advice	zeemike	Jan 2013	#30
exactly "focused his effort to the rights issue not the interpersonal ones" - and you and the OP	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#32
I would seriously like to explain it to you	zeemike	Jan 2013	#33
never said you had a personal hatred of women. sorry- you are imagining things....	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#34
No you did not say it.	zeemike	Jan 2013	#35
you leap frog a personal incident to blame feminism, it's silly.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#36
To talk about something is not holding a grudge.	zeemike	Jan 2013	#37
well why bring up "stupid shit" to activists? what was your point exactly?	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#38
Well just what work are you talking about?	zeemike	Jan 2013	#39
I'm saying your feelings about one personal incident are not significant when discussing the scope	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#40
Well not everyone is annoyed and angry about stupid things.	zeemike	Jan 2013	#41
it's annoying that you guys think it's the ONLY part of feminism worth discussing. that you focus	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#43
Well it has not been one stupid thing years ago.	zeemike	Jan 2013	#46
Guilty of hating when total strangers (mostly men) issue orders to smile. I only talked back	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#49
Fuck this shit....you keep repeating the same charges over and over again	zeemike	Jan 2013	#51
who is crushed? WTF dude. Calm down.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#53
You only think I am angry	zeemike	Jan 2013	#57
you're still licking your wounds from that experience, and embarrassingly enough doing it in public!	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#58
I said goodbye didn't I	zeemike	Jan 2013	#59
you enjoy being a hater over "stupid shit" just have at it.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#60
Well bulling and intimidation is not stupid shit in my book	zeemike	Jan 2013	#61
Agreed	AProgressiveThinker	Jan 2013	#22
you are not even informed. you clearly do not even know what you are talking about.	seabeyond	Jan 2013	#65
Yet you...	AProgressiveThinker	Feb 2013	#66
+10 n/t	whathehell	Jan 2013	#13
I wasn't bitter about it	AProgressiveThinker	Jan 2013	#21
sorry about the age thing.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#28
Well to inform you.	zeemike	Jan 2013	#3
I hope people on this thread are going to be kind.	20score	Jan 2013	#4
but he needs to be reading up, instead of spewing nonsense and stereotypes.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#6
maybe you should try discussing it with him	iamthebandfanman	Jan 2013	#11
the OP here is not the kid in the video, it posts videos from a bunch of HS age kids	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#12
You're spinning my words around	AProgressiveThinker	Jan 2013	#23
took the words out of my mouth?	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#26
I suggest reading Mary Wollstonecraft	delrem	Jan 2013	#8
Mary Wollstonecraft is my favorite feminist	fasttense	Jan 2013	#15
yes, the mocking voice and focus on "hot girls have it easy" were pretty big mistakes.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#29
With all due respect,	Shankapotomus	Jan 2013	#16
This is the kind of stuff you see from a guy who has guys for friends.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#19
I was surprised there were no complaints about "friend zoning"....	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#27
He's claiming women alread enjoy a superior position in society...	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#42
oh yeah, the stuff about assault was weird- and totally inaccurate.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#44
"Women" to him are obviously a theory....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#45
and I guess the teen years is when you get obsessed with gender roles and interaction	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#47
Nor is he willing to discuss that he may be wrong about the goals....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#48
yeah, totally mum on reproductive issues too.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#50
He still hasn't clicked that what impresses guys doesn't impress women...	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#52
oh god, some guys never figure that out. sad.	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#54
Many decide they don't NEED to figure it out....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#56
and money is seen as the other way (aside from being a handsome jock) to obtain a female	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#62
"Feminist" is not a dirty word.	gtar100	Jan 2013	#20
Kids.	Iggo	Jan 2013	#24
This is the kind of stuff we used to talk about in certain literature classes in high school.	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#31
When the percent of women who are raped in this country drops down to the percent of men...	Kalidurga	Jan 2013	#55
sorry kid. i am all for kids thinking. tis my favorite. we do a lot of it in our house. but,	seabeyond	Jan 2013	#63
I have to admit, I couldn't stop watching this particular car crash....	bettyellen	Jan 2013	#64

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