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Really interesting video. Thanks for posting. Shrike47 Jan 2013 #1
The video was biased. Please see post #4. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #5
Total Bullshit! onehandle Jan 2013 #2
That is really important. Everyone on both sides should be required to watch it. Squinch Jan 2013 #3
I have seen it many times. It is still biased. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #6
That was staged for the CCWer to fail. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #4
By all means,...let's keep the myth of the hero alive. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #7
So you have no rebuttal for my points about the video. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #8
No need. I'm sure you would do better.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #19
Except that: Squinch Jan 2013 #9
And the police instructor knew who would be shooting at him,... GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #10
Except that Squinch Jan 2013 #11
Please stay in Texas Larrymoe Curlyshemp Jan 2013 #16
I've participated in a similar scenario with simunitions. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #21
I call bullshit Sky Masterson Jan 2013 #35
You are free to think so. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #38
I call BS FunkyLeprechaun Jan 2013 #48
If I'm in a situation where I think I am part of a simulation AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #49
N/S FunkyLeprechaun Jan 2013 #50
Very different mindset. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #56
It's impossible to think of two things at once FunkyLeprechaun Jan 2013 #57
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #58
How often is the thing that you're typing FunkyLeprechaun Jan 2013 #63
Gotta be a reason why the video has 3,446 likes and 26,517 dislikes. alp227 Jan 2013 #13
It's got 26,517 dislikes b/c gun nuts & their sock puppets like voting in anonymous internet polls. baldguy Jan 2013 #68
In a real situation the student wouldn't be even as prepared as this. Kablooie Jan 2013 #20
Many of these gunmen are wearing body armour Sky Masterson Jan 2013 #34
Calling bullshit. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #39
Mozambique drill for body armor. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #46
Allow me to rebut FunkyLeprechaun Jan 2013 #47
You didn't rebut a single point that I made. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #59
I did FunkyLeprechaun Jan 2013 #62
I gave you a list of things they could have done to make it a fair test. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #64
Ok, let's go with a few real life situations then jeff47 Jan 2013 #53
Here are some other real-life situations: GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #60
And I can post many more where gun owners fail jeff47 Jan 2013 #65
Very few people are armed in public. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #66
Any criticisms based on the idea of the shooter having knowledge baldguy Jan 2013 #67
WOW!! People who think they're going to defend themselves are deluded!!! uponit7771 Jan 2013 #12
This video does a disservice. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #14
Projectile Dysfunction Larrymoe Curlyshemp Jan 2013 #15
LOL. You just reminded me of my Conservative Grandmother who lived in Southern California rightsideout Jan 2013 #52
Anyone who doesn't know when a shooter will show up is set up to fail. Period. That's life. ancianita Jan 2013 #17
I don't suppose you noticed that AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #22
That said, this video can also be said to fairly approximate defense success irl. ancianita Jan 2013 #23
Sure, I totally agree. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #25
One Big Policy Change that I'm for is that CCW be vastly more limited than it now is. ancianita Jan 2013 #27
Why? CCW holders are general not the problem. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #29
Then which gun owners are? nt ancianita Jan 2013 #30
Criminals. Work on stopping them.. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #31
Not all CCW are criminals, but all criminals conceal their weapons to their intended advantage. nt ancianita Jan 2013 #32
And most of them can't *get* a permit. So what's your point? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #33
Working on the criminal element means that if they can see open carriers around, they're less ancianita Jan 2013 #42
And criminals carry illegally. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #36
Why not. There's a compelling public interest in maintaining public safety. There's no talking ancianita Jan 2013 #43
Every shooter who has knowledge of which individual in the room is armed is set up to succeed. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #41
Just what I was wondering about today. Kablooie Jan 2013 #18
According to the video, not very. nt ancianita Jan 2013 #24
If every single person was armed one might get lucky and shoot the assailant. Kablooie Jan 2013 #26
I think I want to post a thread connected to this idea of safety with guns. ancianita Jan 2013 #28
A month or two without training and you're back to square one. Robb Jan 2013 #37
Msg to all DU members who have a CCP ...leave DU. L0oniX Jan 2013 #40
How to deal with gun access and use IS the news lately. The only group agenda, as I see it, is ancianita Jan 2013 #44
Here's the real GUN NUT in the room... L0oniX Jan 2013 #45
Yeah. I believe everything I see on the intertubes too. geckosfeet Jan 2013 #51
Here is some more proof! Soundman Jan 2013 #54
The North Hollywood shoot-out proves nothing about CCW. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #74
CCW people are going to hate me rightsideout Jan 2013 #55
Definately a gun is not for you. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #61
Wow... HawkeyeLibkid Jan 2013 #69
Just be observant of your surroundings. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #70
No, your projecting HawkeyeLibkid Jan 2013 #71
You are the first person responsible for your safety. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #72
Once again HawkeyeLibkid Jan 2013 #73
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