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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #42)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:42 AM

43. I didn't say atheism caused anything, I simply mentioned that...

nonreligious ethical systems can be as bad as you claim religious ones are. Don't twist my words to fit your bullshit argument. If you're going to argue, at least get that straight.

I'll accept your point about the commandments that are specifically religious-- I admit I spoke too fast bringing it up, but don't go trying to make some ridiculous claim that "Thou shalt not kill" doesn't mean just that. It means "don't kill" and I doubt you'll find many of your rational ethical systems saying it's OK to slaughter your neighbors. Same with stealing, lying, and adultery-- don't try to claim they say something else and don't even think telling me they are not rational simply because legend has it they came from some cloudy mountaintop. Now, have they always been followed? No, of course not, nor have any other ethical systems been followed to the letter. And there have been many exceptions to basic religious law, just as there are in civil law.

Now, specifically what system of ethics do you follow that is not inherently subject to corruption? Does it have a name, or are you going to come up with the ever-ready horseshit of following something in your head or that you read and doesn't have a name or identity, but just happens to be far superior to any Christian, Jewish, Muslim, or Hindu ethic that has been evolving for thousands of years. Myself, I follow Quaker teachings that have been refined for 350 years. I follow them by choice because I like them and they make sense. And they challenge me on many levels.

You? (And don't dare try to tell me you read "Nicomachean Ethics")

I'm not the guy to do it on an internet board, but every so often I get to see one of you guys in the same room with a Jesuit and you usually end up crying. (Jesuits have read "Nicomachean Ethics, and much more) I see some value in some religious ideas, you see none at all, and that closed mind is your failing.









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