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Peace Patriot

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22. I'm not trying to pin "all the world's woes" on Clinton, only 2 of the worst ones...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

...the ones she bears special responsibility for: Honduras, and the destabilization of Iraq, Libya, and Syria.

On Honduras, her emails reveal her direct, stated intention NOT TO PERMIT the return of the ELECTED president of Honduras, who was kidnapped by the U.S.-supported Honduran military at gunpoint and flown out of his own country with a re-fueling stop at the U.S. airbase in Honduras. She explicitly stated that she would prevent his return, and she did! The rule of law was never re-established in Honduras, and the result is the "killing fields" of Honduras, where WOMEN who peacefully oppose these fascists supported by Clinton, are a major target for murder and rape, and where gays are also being targeted for brutality and repression.

It is quite unforgivable, what Clinton did in Honduras. And it is right out Henry Kissinger's playbook.

I don't blame Obama who was only six months into his first term at the time, and preoccupied with Bush-Clinton induced global financial meltdown and two Bush wars. I wasn't sure at first, but I did see that his first instinct was to withdraw U.S. funding to the Honduran fascists (he said it was "a military coup," which triggers the law). Then somehow Clinton got control of the situation and she continued sending these fuckwads billions of our tax dollars, and PREVENTED the restoration of Honduran democracy. In her own words.

On destabilization of Iraq, Libya and Syria, Clinton voted for the goddamn war on Iraq and enthusiastically supported it. Result: chaos.

On Libya, Obama bears responsibility for taking his Sec of State's wretchedly wrong advice, and she personally claimed the result on Libya in an taped interview in which she states, Caesar-like, "We came. We conquered. He died!" and then LAUGHS. The callousness is unbelievable. Yeah, Gaddaffi was dead. Result: chaos.

Syria: I can only point out the significant change of direction under Sec of State John Kerry. Clinton was heading us to war with Iran and Russia--with Syrian 'regime change' and chaos as the collateral damage. This was right out of Bush, Cheney & Rumfeld's PNAC playbook, via Robert Kagan. Kerry is out there vigorously pursuing diplomatic solutions, and, in my opinion, trying to UNDO the damage that Clinton did as Sec of State (and is trying to do the same in Latin America with Obama's visit to Cuba and their support for the Colombia/FARC peace talks). The immediate result of attempted 'regime change' in Syria (Clinton's advice and actions): chaos.

Chaos in the ME is another name for The Project for a New American Century, which brought us the Iraq disaster, with the help of warmongering senators like Hillary Clinton.

As for your disparagement of Bernie Sanders as a poof, I can only say that that is NOT my reading of his character. Also, isn't it time we stop fucking around invading and intervening in other countries, and causing misery everywhere we go, and pay some goddamned attention to OUR OWN HOUSE? A few house repairs are in order, it seems to me, before we go adventuring again. And I sincerely hope that any future adventuring we do is to STOP GLOBAL WARMING, and maybe go to Mars and beyond-- cuz at the rate things are going now, we're going to need another planet.



Not as much as President Trump or President Cruz scares me. LonePirate Mar 2016 #1
Should scare us a lot. franannjo Mar 2016 #2
+1000 cpwm17 Mar 2016 #17
Same Foreign Policy billhicks76 Mar 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Mar 2016 #3
Don't be youceyec Mar 2016 #4
Dems didn't get w 'reelected.' Diebold did. Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #14
War is the plan to get the oil flowing again Not Sure Mar 2016 #5
I'm pretty sure she would aim for a "Falklands Moment" more or less immediately Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2016 #6
There's so much frantic hyperbole around here and this is one more example. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #7
Have a helping of Yemen and Libya, with Syria poured over the top cprise Mar 2016 #18
Hillary is a war hawk fbc Mar 2016 #8
Two words: "Hell. Yes." (N/T) Old Crow Mar 2016 #9
As a woman, she has to be. JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #11
You're sure, eh? Tell that to the Syrians, many of them women, Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #15
I like the cut of your jib Fairgo Mar 2016 #16
Trying to pin all the world's woes on Hillary Clinton is .... JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #21
I'm not trying to pin "all the world's woes" on Clinton, only 2 of the worst ones... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #22
I understand your point... JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #23
Well, then, women should disqualified from being President, by your logic--no? Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #24
can you please tell me what the hell AIPAC has to do with ericson00 Mar 2016 #12
No. Kablooie Mar 2016 #13
It's the Kissinger influence... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #19
No, because ultimately most of us don't care. malthaussen Mar 2016 #20
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