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chomsky, hedges, we on the left CHEER, except when talking porn seabeyond Apr 2012 #1
+1. So does mine. freshwest Apr 2012 #4
i got to listen to my husband talk to our 14 yr old son seabeyond Apr 2012 #5
They should learn the real story behind the 'star' of 'Deep Throat.' freshwest Apr 2012 #6
thank you. you saved me time.... seabeyond Apr 2012 #8
A lot of people watching porn are watching women being raped. redqueen Apr 2012 #21
So are you saying ALL women in porn are being 'raped'? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #32
Read more carefully. redqueen Apr 2012 #36
But you can't back up that claim. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #37
I suggest you do more research. redqueen Apr 2012 #39
"extremely popular and getting more popular by the day. The most popular kind is..." Data, please. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #41
Those statements arw based on what.porn producers say. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #45
They are? Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #47
That's not a fact, that's your perception which is heavily colored by your biased supposition. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #87
I dont think you've seen any actual porn, I think you're hearing about it from anti-porn "activists" Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #40
Why the.focus on me? redqueen Apr 2012 #42
Because you're making all sorts of statements about how people in porn feel, how they can't Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #44
You're obviously not reading my posts. I'm done wasting my time. Chomsky is anti porn. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #46
Chomsky also has some bass-ackwards ideas about Israel. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #48
Actually, Chomsky is 100% on the money when it comes to Israel. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #89
Not to steer this train off into I/P land, that's not the view espoused by Chomsky I meant. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #94
The definition of time wasting is trying to do battle w/ things like heterosexual penetrative sex Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #74
Sasha Grey: "Here's a woman who's intelligent, cognizant and making her own choices" Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #79
Obviously, she got brainwashed by The Patriarchy to say those things... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #88
I'm sure Hedges, the amateur mental health diagnostician, would say she has a case of "PTSD" Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #93
Yeah, it's funny how easy it is for most people to just ignore these particular kinds of abusive. redqueen Apr 2012 #14
Wait no... no, it isn't. It's just sad. seabeyond Apr 2012 #22
It'd be more sad if you realized that for all the people who admit to looking at porn Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #72
I don't know one single person whom I agree with 100% of the time. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #31
thank you for posting this KT2000 Apr 2012 #2
Eventually it has to be recognized. redqueen Apr 2012 #15
I know. Morally damaged and soul sick women exploited by planned parenthood Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #97
Amen. I get so weary of leftist males ever comprehending this. zazen Apr 2012 #3
It's sad to think how many people had their first experience with porn as children. redqueen Apr 2012 #16
Yes, sort of how I get weepy over the rampant flimhatzerry with the snarfwaddles Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #51
If you bother attempting to engage with me and dare to think redqueen Apr 2012 #63
Well, I asked you a straightforward question: does "the patriarchy" encompass all or most Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #68
That sounds an awful lot like holding rap music and video games responsible for juvenile delinquency DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #90
If, like you say, most men AND women on the left disagree with you, maybe you're in the wrong. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #33
Apparently, some women will never be happy until they are in charge of how CONSENTING ADULTS Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #49
Andrea Dworkin was mentally ill and could have benefited from anti-psychotic meds. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #96
Source for your allegations about Andrea Dworkin? nt redqueen Apr 2012 #98
Right after you source with statistical data your claims on what is "the most popular kind of porn" Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #99
This isn't Feminism 101, and the info re: porn is easily searchable. redqueen Apr 2012 #100
You got nothing. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #101
You didnt google. Of course. redqueen Apr 2012 #102
Upthread you've asserted your right to ignore my questions. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #103
I'm sorry, but that's not the way a debate works. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #105
Most people project their fantasies on the porn industry instead of looking at it as it is... saras Apr 2012 #7
how am i suppose to get turned on watching a girl fearful, screaming, being gang raped seabeyond Apr 2012 #9
However, my dear, don't you see that your life experiences have turned you into a prude? freshwest Apr 2012 #11
So you think rock and roll needs more censorship? Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #78
Seabeyond, I see Warren is going to answer for you. Myself, I like R &R: freshwest Apr 2012 #81
Not real big on Aerosmith, myself. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #82
here is mine.... seabeyond Apr 2012 #84
Best version and shows the dehumanization men go through, like that photo display thread. freshwest Apr 2012 #85
You didnt know that "Janie's got a gun" is about child abuse? Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #86
'Fearful and screaming'? Then you've been watching the wrong kind of porn. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #34
This is why so many 2nd wavers have trouble with gay men, transpeople, the BDSM community Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #76
Yeah, it's very much not just a job. redqueen Apr 2012 #17
Sort of like how a free market is possible in a Communist utopia... after Capitalism is destroyed. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #53
Let me ask you something. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #58
Thank you for posting this. (nt) enough Apr 2012 #10
It is my pleasure. redqueen Apr 2012 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #77
I'm very impressed with what Hedges says here. And that he agrees with the right. At times women, freshwest Apr 2012 #12
Yes, the left likes to pretend that they have it all over the right where women are concerned. redqueen Apr 2012 #19
I'm sure many progressive women were deeply disappointed that Rick Santorum dropped out. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #61
Group sex among adolescents a public health concern, new study says seabeyond Apr 2012 #23
People are always concerned about adolescents having sex, b/c its something they never used to do Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #43
yes, i can see you would reduce that article to teenagers simply having sex seabeyond Apr 2012 #50
Teens have sex, teens have always had sex. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #52
again, so you just ignore what the article is saying, or you dont read about girls pressured/forced seabeyond Apr 2012 #54
Ignoring things and steering discussions off track... redqueen Apr 2012 #55
You brought up Chomsky, as if he's infallible. He's not. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #56
No, you implied Hedges was conservative/GOP redqueen Apr 2012 #57
He's been actively arguing against the democratic party for the past several years Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #59
no. many many are not consulting adults but defenders like to ignore that fact, too. seabeyond Apr 2012 #65
Authoritative data as per a video on YouTube made by an anti porn group. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #67
happy little bow to make it all pretty. i get it. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #70
I'm sure it's very frustrating Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #73
So the producers of that video, are they affiliated with the Christian right perchance? Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #69
How does one video with anecdotal evidence prove that "many" are not consenting? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #92
And we've gone through this. The fact that consent forms are signed and age verification is done Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #95
I'm all for debating things that are wrong within the porn industry, as I'm sure there are many... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #104
Agreed. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #106
yes... cannot handle reality to justify wants. better to pretend the happy hooker to salve the ego seabeyond Apr 2012 #64
The level of denial is depressing. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #66
I know. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #71
The study mentions pornography and child abuse in relation to group sex. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #91
So, he is only half right... physioex Apr 2012 #13
Yes, the most important thing about this industry to politicians is the money. redqueen Apr 2012 #20
And what should be "done about it", then? Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #75
Link to what Chris Hedges wrote: freshwest Apr 2012 #24
how can you say porn is degrading to women seabeyond Apr 2012 #25
manwin. man win. seabeyond Apr 2012 #26
From your link. But you'll only hear the sound of crickets: freshwest Apr 2012 #27
If only it was shocking, how consistently this is ignored. redqueen Apr 2012 #28
No other group besides women has so thoroughly internalized their own oppression. seabeyond Apr 2012 #29
It's the damn snitzwaffles Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #60
Actually, it's the other way around. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #35
This deserves a kick. redqueen Apr 2012 #30
One thing about porn, it's an excellent way for some people to waste time. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #38
Despite an utter lack of any data whatsoever, anecdotally there sure seems to be a problem Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #62
Thx for posting. nt ProudProgressiveNow Apr 2012 #80
Chris Hedges: "I Stand With The Right Wing" Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #83
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