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JDPriestly

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7. I quote from Glenn Greenwald's book "No Place to Hide."
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:28 PM
Jul 2014

At page 190, Greenwald describes the tactics used to deceive and damage reputations.

"One PowerPoint slide presented by GCHQ (the British surveillance service with which the US collaborates in spying on innocent people and spreading disinformation) surveillance officials at the 2012 SigDev conference describes two forms of attack "information ops (influence of disruption)" and "technical disruption." GCHQ refers to these measures as "online Covert Action," which is intended to achieve what the document calls "The 4 D's: Deny/Disrupt/Degrade/Deceive."

Further, a power point slide states again at page 190 of Greenwald's book cited above"

EFFECTS Definitions

- "Using online techniques to make something happen in the real or cyber world"

- Two broad categories"
- Information Ops (influence or disruption)
- Technical disruption

-Known in GCHQ as Online Covert Action

- The 4D's Deny/Disrupt/Degrade/Deceive.

Speaks for itself.

Russia uses, of course, the same techniques. Very unfortunate when they are used in the US by any person or country because some one of us who is so used to and tired of the deception of our own media -- deception for pay not for ideology -- is bound to point out what it is.

Deny Disrupt Degrade Deceive.

We see a lot of that on DU. I'm sure it is heartfelt, but it is what it is.

Unfortunately, a lot of people come to DU naively believing what they read and hear elsewhere. Their posts in their early time here reflect those borrowed ideas.

We all need to inform ourselves well enough that we can read and listen critically and make informed decisions about what may be true and what is obviously not. Having to defend your ideas on DU develops a lot of critical thinking. I know it has for me.

RT is what it is. Thom Hartmann is a great, independent commentator.

If you don't like RT, you can also hear an hour of Thom Hartmann a day on KPFK Los Angeles -- independent, listener supported radio. I don't always agree with it either, but it at least doesn't repeat the same old same old corporate garbage.

I have a hard time telling around here; is this snark? genwah Jul 2014 #1
The video does not agree with the excerpt provided. TexasTowelie Jul 2014 #2
Video I saw has nothing to do with the OP's Title for Video or KoKo Jul 2014 #6
Please see my post #7. I agree with you. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #8
That makes two of us. LovingA2andMI Jul 2014 #13
Media whores Schlomo Morgenstern Jul 2014 #3
The CNN thing just pissed me off so bad. hardcover Jul 2014 #5
I quote from Glenn Greenwald's book "No Place to Hide." JDPriestly Jul 2014 #7
uhnope, I trust Thom Hartmann no matter what channel he is on. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #4
+1 valerief Jul 2014 #9
"I have seen excerpts from it that were blatant lies" reorg Jul 2014 #18
I could not give dates and times. Just watch and sometimes you will JDPriestly Jul 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author rurallib Jul 2014 #10
If he had an ounce of integrity, he'd recite that verbatim. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #11
Thom Hartmann has no integrity? navarth Jul 2014 #17
That goes for anyone whose show displays the RT logo. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #19
sorry, can't talk now....watching Thom on RT.....really good! navarth Jul 2014 #24
Stick with the brand closest to your ideology demwing Jul 2014 #29
To Those Awake - This Is Obvious cantbeserious Jul 2014 #12
And what do you object to in the video?Why silence that message? freshwest Jul 2014 #14
To lie with no responsibility polynomial Jul 2014 #15
Great Suffering Bloodstained Godz, is this a joke??? navarth Jul 2014 #16
Just don't call out Putin on his homophobic crack down on Gays in Russia, his stomping on Cha Jul 2014 #20
So who is the liar? pa28 Jul 2014 #22
I listen to Thom on the hands-free radio suzanner Jul 2014 #23
who says RT pays Thom's bills? navarth Jul 2014 #25
Hartmann is the most honest well-informed talker on the media, period. ErikJ Jul 2014 #26
Excellent! JDPriestly Jul 2014 #30
Do you have a link for that written material in the shaded box? Or is that your own work? MADem Jul 2014 #27
Very dishonest of you... malokvale77 Jul 2014 #28
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