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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #127)

Tue Apr 23, 2013, 12:50 AM

134. Zimmerman's attorneys

wanted to use the SYG law, but as the media attention got brighter and the inconsistencies in his testimony of the events began to multiply, of course his defense attorneys declined to use it. But it's disingenuous at best that you completely omitted to mention that fact in your response.

I'm also certain that you didn't read the article, otherwise you'd know that it's rather long and it includes instances when SYG failed as a legal strategy. You're giving your interpretation of the Shoot First Ask Question Later law - and that's the problem. There are too many interpretations of this badly written law. Hence my contention that it was written not as a self-defense option, but to beef up the self-defense numbers {which has happened now it's passed} in order to continue selling more guns to frightened Americans. As you've pointed out, I'm not an attorney, but most people aren't. And that's the problem. People will bad intentions will use this badly written law as an open invite to settle scores and shoot and kill people they don't like with a 50/50 chance of getting off. That's not a good mindset for people who believe in a civilized society.

Two examples below that illustrate that fact:

And courts are divided on what the law is when a victim is retreating.

David Heckman of Tampa lost his bid for "stand your ground" protection because his victim was walking away when Heckman shot him.

"We conclude that immunity does not apply because the victim was retreating," the court said.

But Jimmy Hair, who was sitting in a car when he was attacked in Tallahassee, was treated differently. He shot his victim as the man was being pulled from the vehicle. An appeals court gave immunity to Hair, saying: "The statute makes no exception from immunity when the victim is in retreat at the time the defensive force is employed."

While many have argued the law does not allow someone to pick a fight and claim immunity, it has been used to do just that. It is broad enough that one judge complained that in a Wild West-type shootout, where everybody is armed, everyone might go free.

"Each individual on each side of the exchange of gunfire can claim self-defense," Leon County Circuit Judge Terry P. Lewis wrote in 2010, saying it "could conceivably result in all persons who exchanged gunfire on a public street being immune from prosecution."


SYG is a BAD law. It is ambiguous at best. It should be repealed indefinitely.

I love spaghetti westerns, but they have no place in the real world where people actually die. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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