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geckosfeet

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11. Do you think legislation, good legislation can be written when the topical facts are not understood?
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:48 PM
Dec 2012

I don't. I don't want people writing laws who don't know anything about, or are unwilling to obtain even the meagerest of understanding of what they are writing laws for. It is absurd.

As for hollow point bullets.

They are widely used in law enforcement and for self defense for two reasons.
1. They are designed to expand when they enter the body. This creates more "stopping ability" simply by creating more damage.
2. The expansion greatly reduces the chance that the bullet will exit the body and continue on to due additional damage to other who may be in its path. It is safer for bystanders. This is a great advantage in law enforcement. It is also helpful for civilians who are probably not as trained as laws enforcement is.

Now, in relation to assault weapons and the horrible incident in Newton. Those were not hollow point rounds. They were relatively small caliber but high power. And there were a lot of them. And the muzzle velocity out of that Bushmaster was a lot higher than anything any hollow point coming out of a pistol.

I understand that we want to do something. But I cringe when I hear factually incorrect statements about this or that aspect of firearms, and then a cry to base legislation on it. That's crazy stuff.

I am not an expert. But I do have some basic understanding. I expect lawmakers to as well. What is the point of passing laws that address fantasies? They will be a dismal failure and all this momentum will have been lost.

one edit: I am not an expert on armor piercing ammunition, but I do feel that armor piercing rounds would likely pass through a human body with far less damage than a hollow point or a standard target round. Armor piercing rounds are designed to penetrate and some even get sharper as they go through armor. This would probably produce a cleaner wound but it would exit the body having hardly slowed down and proceed to strike something or someone else.

Wow! Just Wow definitely worth reading the whole thing. n/t tech3149 Dec 2012 #1
Thank you for posting! nt Ilsa Dec 2012 #2
An intelligent person would fear people Riftaxe Dec 2012 #3
Very worthwhile reading. Thanks for posting this. NBachers Dec 2012 #4
K&R well worth the read Sedona Dec 2012 #5
Good read. One factual correction. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #6
Great info. Thanks. Shanti Mama Dec 2012 #7
I'm curious. What would the distinction matter in terms of sensible legislation, in your view? Demit Dec 2012 #8
Do you think legislation, good legislation can be written when the topical facts are not understood? geckosfeet Dec 2012 #11
+100 nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #12
Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure I'm totally clear on it though. Demit Dec 2012 #16
They might outalw hollow points at the federal level. This would do nothing to reduce gun violence. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #18
Okay, you're not answering my questions. Demit Dec 2012 #20
She was going through a traumatic experience. Ash_F Dec 2012 #13
I tend to agree with you. I would also limit the sale of body armor so that yahoos who want geckosfeet Dec 2012 #14
You could message her that info. Ash_F Dec 2012 #15
You can lead a horse to water.... geckosfeet Dec 2012 #17
Well you already spent all that time compiling that info Ash_F Dec 2012 #19
The gun nutter comments are really disgusting. catbyte Dec 2012 #9
Clear, Honest, and very Human. +++ nt cbrer Dec 2012 #10
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