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DFW

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30. Just for the record, Germany does NOT have universal health care. Where in Germany do you live?
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 12:05 PM
Dec 2011

Not the part of Germany I live in, that's for sure.

France and England do have a kind of universal health care, Germany does not. It has an odd
patchwork network of different kinds of agencies, companies and organizations that are designed
to make sure everyone has some kind of health insurance, but even in Germany there are people
without health insurance. You have to be some kind of lazy idiot to be uninsured in Germany, but
there are some who fall through the cracks, and there is still the two-tier level of care--first class
with little to no waiting if you are "privately insured," which means you pay out of your pocket up
front and submit the bill to your insurance carrier after for reimbursement, or second class
(Kassenpatienten), which means the doctor, clinic or pharmacy submits the bill to a big insurer, and
gets paid later--often much later, which is a burden to physicians, hospitals and pharmacies who have
to pay their employees on time regardless.

And their workers can actually afford their cars. yourout Dec 2011 #1
You can't easily compare differences in international labour rates dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #2
Oh please, the U.S. is the world's biggest economy and should be able to pay accordingly... rfranklin Dec 2011 #3
Fine then dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #5
Great - now we have Milton Appologist FreakinDJ Dec 2011 #8
but the Germans are more people-friendly then the USA Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2011 #12
Liters per 100 kilometers (l/100 km) DissedByBush Dec 2011 #33
Thanks for the info Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2011 #37
It's actually the unique cultural traits of Germany that allow this Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #17
Yes we see exactly what you mean - TBF Dec 2011 #22
Feel free to feel insulted. dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #23
I agree. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #13
OK - so lets assume dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #24
If we built better cars perhaps more people would buy them... rfranklin Dec 2011 #26
Thats not the issue dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #28
We could sell them to the suddenly middle class autoworkers Doctor_J Dec 2011 #32
they pay cheap here because THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT nt msongs Dec 2011 #4
"Fordism" works - Milton's Trickle Down BS has destroyed the World's Economy FreakinDJ Dec 2011 #6
There is no need to have a "Low Wage, Race-to-the bottom" economy. lib2DaBone Dec 2011 #7
While I won't argue with the central premise that... TreasonousBastard Dec 2011 #9
If you don't make cheap crap, workers are paid better... boppers Dec 2011 #15
Not enough data. While purchase price is high, total cost of ownership factors in ... Scuba Dec 2011 #35
K&R for "The second institution is the German constitution, which allows for “works councils” in... patrice Dec 2011 #10
Bingo. Scuba Dec 2011 #36
Germany MUST have different laws and regulations concerning shareholders and corporations. no_hypocrisy Dec 2011 #11
Shareholder and worker interests are subservient to those of senior management. Lasher Dec 2011 #20
I wonder if CEO pay is Germany is muntrv Dec 2011 #14
Here you go: boppers Dec 2011 #16
Factcheck says no. James48 Dec 2011 #18
Thanks! boppers Dec 2011 #19
While that particular article might be true, I have lost confidence in PolitiFact. Lasher Dec 2011 #21
As one who lives and works in Germany most of the time DFW Dec 2011 #25
Universal health care is part of the equation. Lasher Dec 2011 #29
Just for the record, Germany does NOT have universal health care. Where in Germany do you live? DFW Dec 2011 #30
Wikipedia says Germany has a universal health care system. Lasher Dec 2011 #31
Yes, Deutschland has NHS... and-justice-for-all Dec 2011 #39
German companies make cars - US corporations make profits for shareholders. That's the difference. leveymg Dec 2011 #27
K&R FourScore Dec 2011 #34
Couple issues here. dmallind Dec 2011 #38
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