Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:41 AM

Dem chief: Kucinich a 'narcissist' [View all]

Source: Politico

In the ongoing saga over Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich's next act, Washington state Democratic Party chair Dwight Pelz makes clear where he stands on the question of whether the liberal congressman should move west and run for Congress.

Jim Brunner of the Seattle Times has the story:

The possibility of a Kucinich run here "horrified" state Democratic Party Chairman Dwight Pelz, who has repeatedly discouraged the idea.

"Dennis Kucinich has to decide what his legacy is going to be. Will he be remembered as a principled member of Congress or the narcissist who lost two Congressional races in two states the same year?" Pelz said.

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Dem chief: Kucinich a 'narcissist' [View all]	Freddie Stubbs	Apr 2012	OP
Is Pelz another New Democrat?	Fuddnik	Apr 2012	#1
As a resident of Washinton State I'm horrified you think we'd welcome carpetbagger Kucinich	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Apr 2012	#6
You guys don't want him?	Cleita	Apr 2012	#13
Yep	Auggie	Apr 2012	#18
I would love to have him replace Grassley here in IA	Vincardog	Apr 2012	#29
Shouldn't that be...	nxylas	Apr 2012	#31
If I could type with my thumbs	Vincardog	Apr 2012	#32
We want him here	cyclezealot	Apr 2012	#40
Where is here? And who are "we"?	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#51
We don't need him to be our savior. Jim McDermott is great,	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#50
Okay, your loss could be our gain.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#52
I have no idea why, out of 49 states, he's considering Washington. n/t	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#60
As a Logger of Washington State I'd welcome him with Open arms.	bahrbearian	Apr 2012	#15
He could run against Reichart, but Reichart has been redistricted	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#53
Couldn't you pretty much say that about most elected officials?	tularetom	Apr 2012	#2
Actually, the headline is misleading. He didn't actually say that Kucinich was a narcissist.	Hissyspit	Apr 2012	#8
Pelz is FOS	TheMastersNemesis	Apr 2012	#3
They did dump Dean but he ended up as DNC Chair and implemented	groovedaddy	Apr 2012	#5
Now, wouldn't Kucinich make a good chairman...?	happerbolic	Apr 2012	#12
Only one way to find out. I'm not sure that he has any interest in	groovedaddy	Apr 2012	#20
And then Obama and the New Dems dumped Dean and lost Congress the next cycle. (nt)	w4rma	Apr 2012	#82
Well said, the center right model is why Congressional approval is at 13% too	just1voice	Apr 2012	#38
Leave it up to the voters to decide.	Daniel537	Apr 2012	#4
So as I said in my response to post one.	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Apr 2012	#7
I don't really care if he runs or not.	Daniel537	Apr 2012	#9
The 4th ,5th, 8th , or 10th	bahrbearian	Apr 2012	#21
It's hard to imagine Kucinich carrying one of those conservative districts	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#55
That won't happen. The deadlines have passed. n/t	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#54
Not true. The deadline is May 18th. n/t	Daniel537	Apr 2012	#85
Sounds like the real narcissist is the dude who wrote that headline.	jobycom	Apr 2012	#10
Who in politics ISN'T a narcissist?	marshall	Apr 2012	#11
I don't recognize the Democratic Party of FDR and Kennedy anymore.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#14
It's not that he's too left wing, it's that he's not God's gift to Washington.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#57
You have hardly been left wing and liberal for all the years you	Cleita	Apr 2012	#61
Skip the name-calling, please. I'm just a progressive who doesn't always agree with your	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#63
Name calling? I didn't call you a Freeper or other derogatory slur.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#64
Wrong. It is name calling and derogatory to call anyone here a "conservaDem." We all identify as	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#65
No it isn't. Conservadems or Blue Dogs have always been part of the	Cleita	Apr 2012	#66
This is a site for progressives, which is why there are Greens and other non-Democrats here.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#69
Because you don't seem to understand that Kucinich is a Catholic and once held	Cleita	Apr 2012	#70
Show me one single post where I could be said to have "fought single payer health care	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#76
You aren't a very good Catholic then. I know I wasn't and I spent years in convent school, living	Cleita	Apr 2012	#77
I don't let right-wing thugs define my view of what a "good Catholic" should do or believe.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#79
There is no right wing in the Catholic Church or any wing in the same	Cleita	Apr 2012	#80
You're parroting the absolutist beliefs of the right wing, but millions of Catholics, including	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#83
Well the absolutist beliefs you speak of are the Church.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#87
No. The Church is the whole body, including all the laity.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#91
Well, you are making up your own rules there. I'm happy they taught you about those	Cleita	Apr 2012	#92
That's your opinion, and the opinion of the right wingers, but it's not the only one.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#99
Stop accusing me of being a right winger of any sort.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#100
I didn't. I said you accepted right-wingers claims to their authority in the church.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#101
Yes, we were taught about our conscience being our guides.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#102
The Pope is not infallible in most of his pronouncements.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#103
Wrong. You need to talk to some theologians. n/t	Cleita	Apr 2012	#106
You need to read some actual books, instead of misinterpreting Wikipedia articles.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#107
Do you have anything to back up the claim that most Catholics held/hold pro-life views?	cali	Apr 2012	#81
Most lay Catholics often don't know the Church's teaching and position on a lot of these	Cleita	Apr 2012	#86
You have completely misunderstood the doctrine of Ex Cathedra.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#104
Ex-Cathedra means "from the chair".	Cleita	Apr 2012	#105
Yes. And it applies only "when he speaks ex cathedra" -- that is, when he proclaims that a doctrine	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#109
Where are you getting that information? A link would be nice. n/t	Cleita	Apr 2012	#111
You provided a link. Read it again. It says "when" a doctrine is issued ex-cathedra.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#112
No, my link didn't say it was only twice in the history of the Church. n/t	Cleita	Apr 2012	#113
There are only 2 instances upon which theologians all agree, and another handful in dispute --	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#114
My source says twice in the last two centuries, not in the history of the Church and those two are	Cleita	Apr 2012	#115
Then here is another church chock full of "bad Catholics":	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#116
Look you need to hang onto your religion for whatever reason so I know not all Catholics are	Cleita	Apr 2012	#117
As many as 98% of Catholics disagree that the encyclical on artificial contraception was infallible.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#119
Or because he realized that you can not run for the Democratic nomination as prolife	karynnj	Apr 2012	#88
I don't identify as a "progressive"	Throd	Apr 2012	#74
Kennedy ran on a platform of cutting taxes and increasing nuclear missiles	Freddie Stubbs	Apr 2012	#95
That wasn't the only thing he ran on. But to address your concerns.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#96
So, he ran on making the tax code LESS progressive?	Freddie Stubbs	Apr 2012	#97
No, I think he wanted to fix it for the middle class.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#98
hmph!	chervilant	Apr 2012	#16
No	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Apr 2012	#22
Carpetbagger?	chervilant	Apr 2012	#89
The Third Way Party is ecstatic that the GOP redistricted Dennis out of office.	Zorra	Apr 2012	#17
I wonder how long it will be before they shove Bernie Sanders out of the Senate. n/t	Cleita	Apr 2012	#19
Sanders is an independent.	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Apr 2012	#24
He is and he is still a lefty.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#28
A lefty for sure...	Zorra	Apr 2012	#47
Vermont isn't Ohio	Fearless	Apr 2012	#25
Bernie isn't a carpetbagger. He "came up through the ranks" in VT. He is invested in the state and	MADem	Apr 2012	#41
Get your facts straight	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Apr 2012	#23
Um, hmm. It appears that I explicitly stated that in my subject line.	Zorra	Apr 2012	#45
And losing two congressional seats....	WCGreen	Apr 2012	#56
What they fall to mention	a2liberal	Apr 2012	#26
Classic Politico. Why anyone trusts it as a news source is beyond me. Look at who owns it...	RufusTFirefly	Apr 2012	#27
Ooh, nasty. Thanks for the info, will regard them with a more jaded eye than before.	freshwest	Apr 2012	#34
Yes. The folks at Politico are the journalistic equivalent of agents provocateur	RufusTFirefly	Apr 2012	#37
The same J Allbritton who gave GHW Bush a job as a bank Director after Carter fired him as CIA Chief	leveymg	Apr 2012	#35
Many conservatives trust it, and seem to like it a whole lot.	Zorra	Apr 2012	#46
Politico's MO is remarkably consistent. It stirs up trouble with the goal of Divide and Conquer	RufusTFirefly	Apr 2012	#62
They also own the ABC affiliate in DC	KamaAina	Apr 2012	#49
Ouch. n/t	Ian David	Apr 2012	#30
How typical, this is a perfectly timed attack...	countryjake	Apr 2012	#33
I agree!	Wind Dancer	Apr 2012	#39
why use the label 'hater'?	Bodhi BloodWave	Apr 2012	#90
Have you read the comments on this thread?	Wind Dancer	Apr 2012	#118
Dennis was anti-choice before he started trying to run for president.	Odin2005	Apr 2012	#36
People do often have their eyes opened on issues as they age...	countryjake	Apr 2012	#44
Kucinich is being urged to come to Washington -- he doesn't have a better record on woman's issues	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#59
So the timing of his conversion to being pro-choice is not suspicious to you???	Odin2005	Apr 2012	#71
Many people have short memories. n/t	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#58
How is this LBN with no link?	Kingofalldems	Apr 2012	#42
It got old years ago. Pathetic. n/t	Judi Lynn	Apr 2012	#67
People really think this a good idea?	SpartanDem	Apr 2012	#43
He didn't just lose an election and get interested in WA. He's been coming out for years and..	freshwest	Apr 2012	#68
Here is the link, (OP please update with link)	itsrobert	Apr 2012	#48
This message was self-deleted by its author	MindMover	Apr 2012	#72
If Dennis is a narcissist which most politicians are anyway.....	MindMover	Apr 2012	#73
How odd	Steerpike	Apr 2012	#75
look whos talking	got root	Apr 2012	#78
Why are so many people convinced that the Republicans "got rid of" Kucinich?	brooklynite	Apr 2012	#84
I do believe they got rid of him with the help of DLC Democrats.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#93
So, you're saying he complained...	brooklynite	Apr 2012	#108
He explained this morning that his district was chopped into four pieces.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#110
That would be AWFUL if narcissists started running for public office!	bullwinkle428	Apr 2012	#94