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101. What was "accidental"? leaving a loaded gun where a 4 year old could find it, or the 4 year old

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Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:52 AM

Apr 2012

shooting himself in the chest?

The mom should be charged with child endangerment at the very least.

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Phila. 4-year-old shoots himself [View all] onehandle Apr 2012 OP

A Cautionary Tale K&R! MarianJack Apr 2012 #1

A gun under the pillow of mother's bed in a home with.. SamG Apr 2012 #2

Are you implying that in order to own a gun you need to be intelligent? Somewhere the NRA is... Walk away Apr 2012 #3

Should only be available to property owners. Or maybe some sort of intelligence test. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #55

Why property owners? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #84

land owners of course. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #89

LOL - PROPERTY OWNERS Skittles Apr 2012 #85

glad you picked up on that. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #88

Because "guns don't kill people" & "guns keep people safe" baldguy Apr 2012 #5

You can't legislate against "the stupid". geckosfeet Apr 2012 #9

But you can (potentially) legislate against the stupid owning guns. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #47

Maybe a writing test? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #54

The NRA would love guns to be licensed like cars hack89 Apr 2012 #77

In many states, gun owners ust be licensed. geckosfeet Apr 2012 #79

"many states"? I don't think so.... PavePusher Apr 2012 #94

Ok. For concealed carry you need a license. In my state you need a license to buy, own and fire geckosfeet Apr 2012 #96

If you can't pass a driving test you can't drive... Walk away Apr 2012 #59

how do you figure 90%? NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #60

Most gun owners are not college educated. As the level of education goes up.... Walk away Apr 2012 #98

"most gun owners are republicans?" Upton Apr 2012 #99

Most gun owners are republican. Thank you for providing a graph! nt Walk away Apr 2012 #119

Income goes up with highet education rrneck Apr 2012 #103

Wow, no bigotry there. PavePusher Apr 2012 #106

False comparison primavera Apr 2012 #109

It's also a Constitutional Right. n/t PavePusher Apr 2012 #117

So was slavery at one time. It doesn't make it right, moral or good for the country. nt Walk away Apr 2012 #121

Ensuring the right to efficient means of self-defense isn't "right, moral or good for the country"? PavePusher Apr 2012 #125

I get that you are incapable of understanding why guns are a problem. Walk away Apr 2012 #131

Funny, I don't see slavery in the Bill of Rights. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #128

I never said Slavery was in the Bill of Rights. It is clearly in the body of the Constitution... Walk away Apr 2012 #134

At least you are refering to the correct mechanism for change. PavePusher Apr 2012 #135

You stated "so was slavery" in response to the statement "It's also a Constitutional right". NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #136

I am just stating facts. If you think the truth is racism then I'm betting you are a ... Walk away Apr 2012 #120

Seems to be false on the education front, as shown by the evidence in your post #123. PavePusher Apr 2012 #124

Tests on gun ownership would be quite easy to pass even for high school dropouts. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #115

I did not say that ALL gun owners are stupid. For a supposedly intelligent... Walk away Apr 2012 #122

Your insinuation was obvious. PavePusher Apr 2012 #126

I am not walking back. I was not stating an opinion. Walk away Apr 2012 #133

Oh I read your post completely, and my reply was spot on. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #127

Ahhhh, please see Vermont. Lots of liberal gun owners there. And in MA. geckosfeet Apr 2012 #118

I would counter that anecdotal comments are worthless. Maybe this will help. Walk away Apr 2012 #123

I would counter counter suggest, that reading comphrehension is in fact geckosfeet Apr 2012 #129

My post said nothing about gun safety. You were contesting my post. You are the one off topic. Walk away Apr 2012 #130

What percentage of the population can pass a drivers test? hack89 Apr 2012 #87

As long as the test applies equally across the board. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #112

Easy fix... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #4

Wouldn't even need to do that - TBF Apr 2012 #6

Hell, not even that much primavera Apr 2012 #21

... TBF Apr 2012 #22

According to US Code, every male between the ages of 17 and 45, automatically is. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #37

Fine primavera Apr 2012 #39

Nope. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #51

So your reference to the US Code is what? primavera Apr 2012 #65

It is one definition of Militia. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #75

You totally do not understand well regulated. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #52

The phrase meant something different in the 18th century AlbertCat Apr 2012 #62

A flintlock is a firearm. A bolt action cartridge rifle is still a firearm. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #63

And what was a "flint lock" in that time? Marengo Apr 2012 #132

Yes, it is very convenient... primavera Apr 2012 #64

Whereas you chose to discuss the current Supreme Court... NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #66

You mean... primavera Apr 2012 #67

Even a broken clock is right twice a day NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #68

Yep, and wrong the other 1438 minutes out of the day. primavera Apr 2012 #70

The odds are bad. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #71

Lol! primavera Apr 2012 #74

A militia is a four year old boy with a gun he got from under his mom's pillow. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #49

IKR ... nt TBF Apr 2012 #76

Even easier. A writing or intelligence test for those that want a gun. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #56

Keep in mind that a lot of people write far better than they type. nt NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #57

Escaping into a pure fantasy may be easy hack89 Apr 2012 #91

Sad fightthegoodfightnow Apr 2012 #7

Guns don't kill children -- pillows kill children Hepburn Apr 2012 #8

An easily preventable tragedy. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #10

So if it's a "quick access" box... Hepburn Apr 2012 #11

They're safes with keypads krispos42 Apr 2012 #14

I have one of these BiggJawn Apr 2012 #16

Good question Hepburn. They have combinations. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #15

Mine had a key and a push-button combination krispos42 Apr 2012 #32

They have keypads like a safe obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #18

I agree. Gun ownership should be heavily regulated. nt onehandle Apr 2012 #19

And it is heavily regulated. Glad you agree. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #28

More ruined lives TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #12

I wonder how many people that would never have a gun in their house... krispos42 Apr 2012 #33

Lame comparison, TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #44

Not really. Drowning is a major killer of children. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #53

children can choke on peanut butter too! provis99 Apr 2012 #48

They certainly can't compare with yours. krispos42 Apr 2012 #80

I wouldn't argue against owning a gun, but... ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #13

My point exactly! The adult with the gun here... SamG Apr 2012 #17

Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools slackmaster Apr 2012 #20

....as if it would have made much difference here. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #23

It couldn't hurt. I also believe every child should be taught how to swim. slackmaster Apr 2012 #24

Since most people do not wish to own a gun... primavera Apr 2012 #25

Because guns are common, even a person who doesn't own one is likely to encounter one at some point slackmaster Apr 2012 #26

Maybe we ought to teach kids guns are bad and don't touch like poison ivy or something. Hoyt Apr 2012 #27

Abstinance-only education? krispos42 Apr 2012 #35

Right wingers are behind most gun proliferation in this country. Some liberals hitch a ride for Hoyt Apr 2012 #38

Saturn's moon Iapetus has an equitorial ridge like a walnut. n/t krispos42 Apr 2012 #42

Polls show that 50% of Democrats own firearms. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #61

I'd like to see the source for that claim primavera Apr 2012 #69

It's actually 40% of Democratic-leaning households. LAGC Apr 2012 #82

Okay, so that's households... primavera Apr 2012 #86

If they "loathed" they'd get rid of them. nt rrneck Apr 2012 #104

The NRA is a lying, right-wing organization, and its advocacy shouldn't be permitted here. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #113

I see your point primavera Apr 2012 #29

People change their minds about things over time. Today's kid who says he or she will never own... slackmaster Apr 2012 #34

And if/when they do change their minds... primavera Apr 2012 #43

You might live perfectly well, served 100% by light rail AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #50

Oh, like kids always follow "the rules? - right? bread_and_roses Apr 2012 #81

"...absent adult supervision, they acted like the kids they were..." PavePusher Apr 2012 #95

I didn't say anything about giving guns to kids slackmaster Apr 2012 #100

I think both sides on the gun issue can agree on this gejohnston Apr 2012 #30

Makes you think ZHerolds73 Apr 2012 #105

sigh. barbtries Apr 2012 #31

Check out the sub-thread up above - small safes using combinations, petronius Apr 2012 #36

thanks barbtries Apr 2012 #83

How sad DesertRat Apr 2012 #40

I wonder why Turbineguy Apr 2012 #41

We obviously don't have enough guns in this country. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #45

Where's the proof that the kid shot himself? disndat Apr 2012 #46

Disgusting that this tragedy brings out the anti-gun nuts. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #58

So what are the gun nuts doing here? primavera Apr 2012 #72

Wow. What a bizarre post. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #73

You forgot bathtub falls TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #78

Back, back into the dark corner of DU. nt onehandle Apr 2012 #90

Disgusting that it brings out the pro-gun nuts. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #92

Yes, it's disgusting that we're tired of seeing children being slaughtered with guns every day DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #114

We had something similar happen here in Durham Alcibiades Apr 2012 #93

was he standing his ground? starfox172 Apr 2012 #97

What was "accidental"? leaving a loaded gun where a 4 year old could find it, or the 4 year old Devil_Fish Apr 2012 #101

Why would a mother sleep with a .38 under her pillow? Remmah2 Apr 2012 #102

Paranoia? primavera Apr 2012 #110

When there are kids in the house savalez Apr 2012 #107

A pistol under the pillow does you no good, either carry it or lock it up. ileus Apr 2012 #108

I've often thought the same thing primavera Apr 2012 #111

In a break in you will normally be alerted by noise. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #116

Accidental? Broderick Apr 2012 #137

Any time a child gets access to a firearm, somebody should face criminal charges. onehandle Apr 2012 #138

And not a slap on the wrist either Broderick Apr 2012 #139